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Cuckoo sp. Chiang Dao, N Thailand

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Old Saturday 28th March 2020, 13:23   #1
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Cuckoo sp. Chiang Dao, N Thailand

Any thoughts on this cuckoo please? Taken by a friend today.
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Old Saturday 28th March 2020, 16:27   #2
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Cuculus canorus/saturatus/optatus group, 2th cy
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Old Saturday 28th March 2020, 16:52   #3
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Cuculus canorus/saturatus/optatus group, 2th cy
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Can you uncode for me please.
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Can you uncode for me please.
He's suggesting it's either Common Cuckoo or one of the splits if Oriental Ciuckoo
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I got that part, but dont understand the 2th cy in bold....was it meant to be 2nd calendar year?
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I got that part, but dont understand the 2th cy in bold....was it meant to be 2nd calendar year?
That would be my guess.
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I got that part, but dont understand the 2th cy in bold....was it meant to be 2nd calendar year?
Sorry.
For once, I didn't use online translation.
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Thanks. So the consensus is that this can't be identified?
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Eurasian Cuckoo for me, adult, hepatic, female.
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Thanks. So the consensus is that this can't be identified?
Yep. In this plumage impossible unless in the hand, or vocalising.

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Yep. In this plumage impossible unless in the hand, or vocalising.

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Width of barring is a feature which eliminates some possibilities?
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I guess it will remain unidentified. He has got this photo today if it helps.
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Brian, the heavily barred rump and lower back should eliminate conorus so hepatic female saturatus/optatus in the absence of vocalisations. https://www.researchgate.net/publica...os_photo_guide

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Brian, the heavily barred rump and lower back should eliminate conorus so hepatic female saturatus/optatus in the absence of vocalisations. https://www.researchgate.net/publica...os_photo_guide

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Thanks. And opatus is rare/unreported from that region?
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Thanks. And opatus is rare/unreported from that region?
No confirmed records as it stands in Thailand Brian which does not mean that they have not been overlooked in the past given the difficulty in separation. The few live birds that have been handled on Koh Man Nai (Mar) have all been Himalayan.

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One small addition. This bird probably cannot be aged. It is mostly in fresh plumage, so already completing the winter moult. The outermost visible primary seems to be of older generation, but not much can be seen of it. There may well be some other old feathers too, like secondaries, which are not visible here.
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