Falco subbuteo : any without a red vent? Lunigiana, Italy (1 Viewer)

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Kinthissa

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• Sep 23, 2016

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Hobby chicks fledged 13 September. Four birds madly kekking all over the valley all afternoon, next day there were three flying more discreetly (I think a buzzard may have caught one chick on the second day).

I had read that juveniles do not have red undertail coverts, but I only managed to get blurry pictures! could you help me see which are likely juveniles? it looks like white-tipped feathers in the first photo.

nos.1 through 5 from 13 September

 

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Kinthissa

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• Sep 23, 2016

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more pix in the hope of differentiating between red-vented and non red-vented!

nos. 6,7 from 13 September
no. 8 from 14 September ~ what's happening?
nos. 9,10 from 23 September (3 seen today, they're still here after many days of heavy rain)

 

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tconzemi

Tom

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• Sep 24, 2016

• #3

they are all juveniles except the adult feeding the juvenile in pic 2 and 3 in second post, just have a look at the moult gaps of adult and pristine plumage in juvies
if one juvenile was preyed by another raptor, it must be Goshawk and not Buzzard

 

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Kinthissa

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• Sep 24, 2016

• #4

Tom, that is great! I wasn't seeing any red vents except in the pic of adult passing food on the wing (2nd pic in 2nd post).

re: raptor preying on Hobby young, On 14th I saw a biggish raptor winging off while a Hobby cried all over the valley. Very exciting if there might be a Goshawk around.

Have Honey buzzards gone by now? wasps still active on the hill.

 

tconzemi

Tom

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• Sep 24, 2016

• #5

possibly some juveniles HB still around, most adults gone