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Turdus ID (1 Viewer)
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Pavel
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Thanks Gandytron! I am almost sure that it's a male Black-throated Thrush (Turdus atrogularis), but almost...
gandytron
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Pavel, yes after I posted it occurred to me that B-t Thrush might well fit the bill and is far more likely that Japanese Thrush. I am interested by the apparent clean white underparts with apparent spotting on the breast sides. Is that consistent with black-throated ? (I have not seen a black-throated thrush for about 20 years so cannot really remember!).
Best wishes,
Dave
Pavel
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Thanks Dave,
Yes, I've seen BTT in the taiga 12 years ago during a birding trip to Central Siberia, but today the circumstances were different as I spotted several thrushes on migration flying overhead and just took some record shots. Hopefully other birdforum experts will also post a comment.
dwatsonbirder
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Why not a slightly blurred Song thrush?
Pavel
Well-known member
Daniel, because on all eight photos I took, the head appears obviously black contrasting with the white unmarked belly...
Greetings,
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James Lowther
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The throat looks brown on my monitor.
flight pix of the 2 species
http://birds-in-flight.net/?p=7603
http://www.birdphoto.fi/lajikuvat/turphi/9turphi189i.jpg
cheers,
James
flight pix of the 2 species
http://birds-in-flight.net/?p=7603
http://www.birdphoto.fi/lajikuvat/turphi/9turphi189i.jpg
cheers,
James
Pavel
Well-known member
Probably light effect, foggy and rainy, no sun... How about Red-throated Thrush?
JWN Andrewes
Poor Judge of Pasta.
Doesn't immediately look Song Thrush shaped to me, not compact enough, maybe a bit too long billed? Hard to judge. Would expect to see more markings on the undertail and rear flanks for Black-throated though, look too clean, especially on the third pic. No clear answer for you Pavel I'm afraid, but if pushed I'd probably, reluctantly, plump for funny looking Song.
CARERY
Well-known member
A Song Thrush for me. Too short-tailed for BTT or RTT. After all those are very blurry record shorts. To me it seems that the bird is seen directly from below (flying a curve?) thus showing much of the white lower belly. The seemingly dark head might be a trick of the lighting. I found this seemingly dark-throated ST:
http://www.oiseaux.net/photos/jules.fouarge/song.thrush.6.html
http://www.oiseaux.net/photos/jules.fouarge/song.thrush.6.html
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Agree on Song Thrush.
Pavel
Well-known member
and now we have a comment of Oleg Bourskii - a well-known avian specialist who spent over 35 years in the Central Taiga Region (Mirnoe ringing station) in Russia where BTT is a common species:
"Dear Pavel,
nice to hear from you! Certainly, this is the Black-troated, male, first of all because of the black throat. Perhaps there are some unmoulted juvenile feathers on the breast sides, though unclear. The song Thrush would have distinct spots, almost equally spread over the underparts except belly, and the tail would be shorter and lighter.
With best regards,
O.B."
"Dear Pavel,
nice to hear from you! Certainly, this is the Black-troated, male, first of all because of the black throat. Perhaps there are some unmoulted juvenile feathers on the breast sides, though unclear. The song Thrush would have distinct spots, almost equally spread over the underparts except belly, and the tail would be shorter and lighter.
With best regards,
O.B."
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Mark Lew1s
My real name is Mark Lewis
Another for song thrush. I'd be interested to see what the Bulgarian Rarities Committee makes of it.
dwatsonbirder
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Pavel
Well-known member
Thanks guys, just got another comment from Lasse J. Laine: "Turdus ruficollis, adult male. I have never seen such a clear cut border between whitish belly and all dark throat and upper breast. I am maybe imaginating that there is reddish tinge on the throat. You good try to open that dark area in the light-room or photoshop. Underparts do not look like that of a Song Thrush."
