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Old Friday 11th January 2019, 22:15   #1
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On a recent trip to florida i encountered a number of birds that i am, living in the UK, unfamiliar with. if anyone could confirm my suggestions or provide an id that would be great thanks, i have other photos of each

Image 7289: American Spoonbill?
Image 7437: Little/Snowy Egret (Are they different?)
Image 8368: some sort of sandpiper
Image 8636: American Herring Gull?
Image 8528:some sort of frigatebird
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Old Friday 11th January 2019, 22:30   #2
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Image 8890:some ort of grackle (glades)
Image 8981: ???
Image 9036: Forsters Tern? (Different to common/ arctic or...?)
Image 9060: ??? same as 8981?
Image 9075: more grackles of some sort
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Old Friday 11th January 2019, 22:54   #3
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1 Roseate Spoonbill
2 Snowy Egret (different to Little)
3 Sanderling
4 looks LBB
5 Magnificent Frigatebird
6 maybe Boat-tailed Grackle
7 & 9 Northern Mockingbird
8 Forster's Tern yes
10 Common Grackles
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Old Friday 11th January 2019, 23:29   #4
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1 Roseate Spoonbill
2 Snowy Egret (different to Little)
3 Sanderling
4 looks LBB
5 Magnificent Frigatebird
6 maybe Boat-tailed Grackle
7 & 9 Northern Mockingbird
8 Forster's Tern yes
10 Common Grackles
Ditto to all (can remove the 'maybe' from 6)
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Old Friday 11th January 2019, 23:29   #5
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Old Friday 11th January 2019, 23:32   #6
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Image 8874: ???
Image 9555: White pelicans?
Image 9565: some sort of hawk
Image 9571: another grackle
Image 9600: some raptor on an osprey nest
also is there any difference between a fish crwo and an American crwo
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Old Saturday 12th January 2019, 00:47   #7
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Eastern phoebe
White pelican
Red tailed hawk
Boat tailed grackle
Red tailed hawk.
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Old Saturday 12th January 2019, 01:00   #8
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Image 8874: ???
Image 9555: White pelicans?
Image 9565: some sort of hawk
Image 9571: another grackle
Image 9600: some raptor on an osprey nest
also is there any difference between a fish crwo and an American crwo
I agree with all photo IDs so far.

The two crows are best identified by voice, but I think there are some features that can suggest one over the other.
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Regarding American and Fish Crows, I made some anotations after a chat on BF. I can't recall from when or with whom, but the differences are as follows:
Fish Crow:
P(rimary)9 less than or equal to P5, P7 & 8 are longest. shorter thighed than American, often shorter neck than American and more fluffed throat (a bit subjective)
American Crow:
P5 much shorter than P9, P5 to P8 are of similar length. Often neck extended and throat not substantially fluffed (a bit subjective)

EDIT: Primary feathers are numbered higher the further out on the wing they are
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Old Saturday 12th January 2019, 16:34   #11
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Image 8797: double crested cormorant (different from great? and is that different from uk cormorant)
Image 8848: ???
Image 9910: sandwich tern? (different from uk sandwich tern?)
Image 9620: red tailed hawk again?
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Old Saturday 12th January 2019, 17:06   #12
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1 agree Double-crested Cormorant
2 Palm Warbler
3 Cabot's Tern (still Sandwich I think by american authorities)
4 possibly Red-shouldered Hawk
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Old Saturday 12th January 2019, 18:28   #13
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4. Looks good for Red-Shouldered Hawk
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Image 8797: double crested cormorant (different from great? and is that different from uk cormorant)
Yes to first part, UK corm is Great

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I think the second photo in the third set has Northern Gannets rather than American White Pelicans.
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I think the second photo in the third set has Northern Gannets rather than American White Pelicans.
The black extends to the secondaries so not gannets. Also the flight posture is not right for gannets. Gannets rarely soar high above the water, except maybe coming into their cliff nests.
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The black extends to the secondaries so not gannets. Also the flight posture is not right for gannets. Gannets rarely soar high above the water, except maybe coming into their cliff nests.
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Black does not extend to the secondaries, or not as far onto the secondaries as on pelicans, on at least some of the birds, so not pelicans. Flight posture is not right for pelicans, in my view. It is impossible to say from this photo how high above water they are.
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Perhaps I'm being rash offering an opinion, not having seen a pelican for many years, but they look like pelicans to me. The bottom right-hand one, for example, seems to have a pelican's beak. And the jizz just looks wrong for gannet, which would normally look straighter-winged.
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Black does not extend to the secondaries, or not as far onto the secondaries as on pelicans, on at least some of the birds, so not pelicans. Flight posture is not right for pelicans, in my view. It is impossible to say from this photo how high above water they are.
I think the image is tricky, but for example lower right and in top row #3 from the right shows black far into the secondaries.

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I think the image is tricky, but for example lower right and in top row #3 from the right shows black far into the secondaries.

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I agree the image is tricky, but some of the birds, for example the one in the upper left, but others as well, clearly show no black on the secondaries, which American White Pelican should always have. I will admit I do not know the full molts sequence of Northern Gannets, but I believe third year gannets have black secondaries with a largely white back and forewing.
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I actually disagree with the upper left bird. I see black half way in from the bend in the wing towards the body of the bird. I agree it is thin and could be an artifact - but I think it is an effect of seeing those secondaries almost end on which means that the black is nearly invisible. Tricky indeed!

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Those are pelicans not gannets!
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