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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 17:26   #1
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ID help please - USA birds

Hi All

Could I please have some help with identifying these birds from my travels around the USA in May this year.

1 - Ranch in Texas
2 - Yosemite national park
3 - Yosemite national park
4 - California Coast
5 - Santa Barbara sea

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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 19:32   #2
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4 - Heermann's Gull, immature.
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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 19:38   #3
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Struggling with the Flycatchers and the Murrelet (?) But is the Gull a Heermann's Gull?

Edit: crossed with Nutty!
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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 19:40   #4
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1 - Eastern Phoebe is my best guess
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I'm not sure it's too clear on the photo, but the bird in image 3 has a yellowish throat if it helps anyone.

The sea bird in image 5 was about 2 - 3 miles off shore from Santa Barbara bay, while we were on a whale watching trip. There were several groups of 6 - 8 of these birds.
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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 20:43   #6
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I'm not sure it's too clear on the photo, but the bird in image 3 has a yellowish throat if it helps anyone.
The dark marks on the undertail may be a more useful character; my best guess Western Wood Pewee, but see what other people with local expertise say.

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The sea bird in image 5 was about 2 - 3 miles off shore from Santa Barbara bay, while we were on a whale watching trip. There were several groups of 6 - 8 of these birds.
My best guess Xantu's Murrelet, but as with the above, wait for replies by those with local expertise.
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The dark marks on the undertail may be a more useful character; my best guess Western Wood Pewee, but see what other people with local expertise say.



My best guess Xantu's Murrelet, but as with the above, wait for replies by those with local expertise.
Xantu's Murrelet is the closest I got in Sibley....
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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 22:37   #8
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Aren't the flycatchers just Pewees?
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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 22:53   #9
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1. Juvenile Eastern Phoebe
2-3. Eastern Wood-Pewees (note extremely long primary projection) EDIT: I mean Western Wood-Pewees!
4. Immature Heermann's Gull
5. Pass

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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 23:01   #10
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1 Eastern Wood-peewee
2 & 3 Eastern Phoebe
4 & 5 pass
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Old Saturday 13th October 2018, 23:19   #11
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1. Juvenile Eastern Phoebe
2-3. Eastern Wood-Pewees (note extremely long primary projection)
4. Immature Heermann's Gull
5. Pass
For 2 & 3, in Yosemite, surely you mean Western Wood-Pewee?
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For 2 & 3, in Yosemite, surely you mean Western Wood-Pewee?
Yes, I did mean Western.... Thanks.

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Old Sunday 14th October 2018, 00:04   #13
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Assuming the murrelet is of the former Xantus's complex (with which I agree) it is a Scripps's Murrelet which has been split from Guadalupe.
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Thank you all for the replies, much appreciated.
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Old Sunday 14th October 2018, 21:37   #15
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1,2 &3 are all pewees. 4 Herman’s gull and 5 is scripp’s
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Agree with Tom.

Im not sure whether Scripps' can be separated from Craveri's based on that picture, but given that Scripps' nest on Santa Barbara Island while the Craveri's nest in Mexico, the odds are it's a Scripps'.
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1,2 &3 are all pewees. 4 Herman’s gull and 5 is scripp’s
I would like to know why you think #1 is an EAWP. Beak shape/size?
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I would like to know why you think #1 is an EAWP. Beak shape/size?
Also, where in Texas is the ranch?
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A number of factors strongly favor Scripps's. Craveri's is a late summer or early fall bird in California. Craveri's often holds its tail upright. The separation of the black and white in the face comes to the gape in Scripps's and the chin in Craveri's. Although it's easier to see in flight, Craveri's shows a downward "spur" of black at the shoulder which is equivocal in this photo.
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