Song Sparrow or Lincoln Sparrow? (1 Viewer)

JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 13, 2016

• #1

San Dimas Canyon, CA.

Thanks,

 

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Andy Hurley

Gotta love nature!

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• Aug 13, 2016

• #2

Lincoln's for me

 

RJP

Well-known member

• Aug 13, 2016

• #3

Song for me. I'm not seeing the fine streaking and buffy wash of a Lincoln's.

 

JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 13, 2016

• #4

Thanks for the feedback, but the disparity still leaves me in a conundrum |!|

Its wing markings are distinctly-different from other songs I've seen in the area. Just an aberration ... or a different species? :news:

 

JANJ

Well-known member

• Aug 13, 2016

• #5

Agree with Randy.

Some finer details:

http://www.migrationresearch.org/mbo/id/lisp.html

http://www.migrationresearch.org/mbo/id/sosp.html

JanJ

 

JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 13, 2016

• #6

How about this one ... same area?

 

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JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 13, 2016

• #7

JANJ said:

Agree with Randy.

Some finer details:

http://www.migrationresearch.org/mbo/id/lisp.html

http://www.migrationresearch.org/mbo/id/sosp.html

JanJ

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Thank you for these reference links!

 

Tiraya

San Diego CA

• Aug 13, 2016

• #8

Looks like song sparrow and black-throated sparrow to me.

 

JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 13, 2016

• #9

Silverwolf said:

Looks like song sparrow and black-throated sparrow to me.

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So the bottom one is a female black-throated?

Thanks for the insight.

 

Tero

Retired

• Aug 14, 2016

• #10

Tail is a bit short for song in the opening post. Not sure where to go with this as I am unfamiliar with CA birds.

 

RJP

Well-known member

• Aug 14, 2016

• #11

JohnKoerner007 said:

So the bottom one is a female black-throated?

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No, not female - if anything, a juvenile. But I have no field experience with juvenile Black-throated Sparrows, so I "cannot confirm or deny".

 

Tiraya

San Diego CA

• Aug 14, 2016

• #12

It (the black-throated sparrow) matches the plumage described as "Juvenile (Jun-Oct)" in Sibley.

 

JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 14, 2016

• #13

Thanks for all comments.

This is a Black-Throated Sparrow I photographed a few months ago.

This is a Brewer's Sparrow from the Audubon Site.

I am leaning more toward a Brewer's Sparrow, as they like sagebrush, grasses and fields, whereas all the Black Throats I've seen have been in the desert.

 

JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 14, 2016

• #14

Here is a juxtaposition:

(L-R): Black-Throated Sparrow, My UNK Specimen, Brewer's Sparrow

 

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JANJ

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• Aug 14, 2016

• #15

More likely a young BTS

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jerryting/15338138702

JanJ

 

Larry Lade

Moderator

• Aug 14, 2016

• #16

I tend to agree with Song Sparrow and young Black-throated Sparrow.

 

JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 14, 2016

• #17

Thank you all, I appreciate the guidance.

Just started birding, after getting some longer glass, and so the time everyone takes to help out is much appreciated. :t:

 

Tero

Retired

• Aug 14, 2016

• #18

I can't rule out Belding's Savannah sparrow for the opening post. But I've only seen Savannas here in MO and NE.

 

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JohnKoerner007

Wildlife Photographer

• Aug 15, 2016

• #19

Tero said:

I can't rule out Belding's Savannah sparrow for the opening post. But I've only seen Savannas here in MO and NE.

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The wing/back markings do look like Savanna's to me as well; however, it seems the Savanna's have a yellow eyebrow, not a white one.

 

Tero

Retired

• Aug 15, 2016

• #20

Not all do. Even here I've found some that do not. Not quite sure of all the CA possibilities.