A few I'm struggling with - Staffordhire UK (1 Viewer)

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davetheman

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• Jul 15, 2019

• #1

Hi,

I'd appreciate help on these 3, as I'm struggling somewhat.

Can't find a fit for the 1st.

Is it possible the 2nd is Noticella (Epiblema) incarnatana?

Can't make progress with the 3rd, apart from Tortricidae.

Thanks in anticipation,

 

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InternetMan

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• Jul 15, 2019

• #2

Is the first one a male bee moth throwing shapes? Alas I’m a klutz when it comes to your tortrixes (tortrices?)

 

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davetheman

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• Jul 15, 2019

• #3

Thanks InternetMan,

I'm sure you're right, Bee Moth it is (or certainly appears to be!)

As you may have guesses, I'm a bit of a Klutz myself, only in my case it relates to most of the insect world that isn't immediately obvious, which explains why I so often ask for help in the forums!

Cheers

 

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Britseye

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• Jul 16, 2019

• #4

I was looking on Atropos recently and there was a list of the top 20 most requested IDs. I can't remember which way round it was but Bee Moth was one of the top three.

 

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davetheman

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• Jul 16, 2019

• #5

Thanks Britseye,

I'd definitely agree with that! I've been guilty of exactly the same myself, even though I've seen a few before.

Now, about the Tortricidae....

(Someone out there must know a lot more than me)

 

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davetheman

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• Jul 16, 2019

• #6

I've just discovered a spelling error in the 'guessed' taxon for the second picture. This should have read Notocelia (Epiblema) incarnatana.

I can't correct the original post because it's now more than 24 hours after the original post.

Apologies

 

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STS

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• Jul 18, 2019

• #7

Ancylis achatana for the second image; had one here on Saturday morning. I'll have another look at the third one later.
With photos, it's always a good idea to take some from the side and some from above, so all the relevant details are visible. Not that this is always possible, of course.

Good mothing,
Thomas

 

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STS

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• Jul 18, 2019

• #8

The nearest I can get is Hedya sp. although the dark area around the tornus (trailing corner) is a bit odd. Never easy but always good fun, the micros. I think I prefer them to macros, shock horror!
I hope you manage to nail down the ID.
Best of luck,
Thomas

 

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davetheman

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• Jul 18, 2019

• #9

Thanks Thomas,

Spot on!

Before I received your responses I took the opportunity of passing them by Dave Emley, our local County Moth Recorder. He (pre)confirmed your i.d. of #2 as Ancylis achatana. He also confirmed #3 as Heyda nubiferana.

As regards your comments on preferred photographic aspects, whenever possible I do try to get as many angles as possible, but as all my photography is in-situ it sometimes just isn't possible. Good suggestions though!

Thanks for all the hard work, and I'm sure you'll get more chances as I've already got more pictures I'm struggling with, which I'll no doubt post on this forum at a not too distant date.

Cheers