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Old Wednesday 22nd February 2017, 21:39   #51
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They have new sample pages. Interesting that Nystalus obamai is recognized as a species vs. HBW and BirdLife International Illlustrated Checklist (2014) which regarded it as subspecies of Nystalus striatus.
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It's split by the IOC as well, Western Striolated Puffbird.

It was split over a year ago by the IOC and given that the AOU is supposed to be adopting this taxonomy, maybe that's why they did it?

One of the reasons I won't bother with the HBW editions is that they seem to be adopting an almost hybrid taxonomy.

Their website states

The HBW and BirdLife International Checklist of the Birds of the World is the first ever taxonomic checklist to be compiled using the same criteria applied consistently by the same experts

It seems to me that we have witnessed the birth of yet another taxonomic idealogy with 628 splits, some sceptics may think this a clever sales tactic? I don't doubt that this is a superb work, just don't think I need it, I follow the IOC, listing just got even more complicated.


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Old Thursday 23rd February 2017, 18:10   #53
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It's split by the IOC as well, Western Striolated Puffbird.

It was split over a year ago by the IOC and given that the AOU is supposed to be adopting this taxonomy, maybe that's why they did it?

One of the reasons I won't bother with the HBW editions is that they seem to be adopting an almost hybrid taxonomy.

Their website states

The HBW and BirdLife International Checklist of the Birds of the World is the first ever taxonomic checklist to be compiled using the same criteria applied consistently by the same experts

It seems to me that we have witnessed the birth of yet another taxonomic idealogy with 628 splits, some sceptics may think this a clever sales tactic? I don't doubt that this is a superb work, just don't think I need it, I follow the IOC, listing just got even more complicated.


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AOU's SACC has recognized this species: http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCprop679.htm

It is BOU that is moving to IOC, not AOU (at least at this time).

(And I should remember writing AOS instead of AOU)

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Old Saturday 11th March 2017, 07:49   #54
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I have it. it's up to standard. I wanted to write a review for Dutch birding, but I guess they did' reply because they are all envious that I have a copy :-)
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I have it. it's up to standard. I wanted to write a review for Dutch birding, but I guess they did' reply because they are all envious that I have a copy :-)
How did you get it temmie?


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long story short: through a friend living in Peru, his parents took it to Europe.
So I fear (if there was any hope at the moment) that it's a one-off, and most people will have to wait and see if NHBS / Buteo come up with a container or a second print.
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Buteo Books already shows the FG on their web

http://www.buteobooks.com/mm5/mercha...uct_Code=14746
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Old Friday 31st March 2017, 10:24   #58
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Avifauna Naturresor (Swedish Nature Travel Company) are among this book's sponsors. They mention on their homepage http://www.avifauna.se/avifauna/om-a...via-2012-2014/ that the first printing (1300 ex) was meant for the 'American continents', while a 2nd print 'acc. to plan will find place this spring in Britain'.
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Old Thursday 1st June 2017, 15:22   #59
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I wrote a review (link below).

I warn you it's not very profound and not very thorough... It's meant to wet your appetite, rather than provide a very exhaustive review...
I hope you find it quirky

https://www.dutchbirding.nl/recensie...ia_field_guide
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I wrote a review (link below).

I warn you it's not very profound and not very thorough... It's meant to wet your appetite, rather than provide a very exhaustive review...
I hope you find it quirky

https://www.dutchbirding.nl/recensie...ia_field_guide
Thanks Temmie, love your review. To me, it contains all I want to know before deciding whether or not to get a book. Now if only the book will become available here. I have no immediate travel plans though. But my appetite has definitely been wetted.
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Thanks Temmie, love your review. To me, it contains all I want to know before deciding whether or not to get a book. Now if only the book will become available here. I have no immediate travel plans though. But my appetite has definitely been wetted.
Usually, the thing that tells me I need a book, is when there is a book to buy!

There are very few exceptions, I want them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very frustrated that we can't get this book, thanks Temmie.


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I managed to pick up a copy at the Bird Fair last weekend. World Land Trust had a few copies (5 left when I bought mine on the Sunday) on their stall priced at £45.

Overall a good book although some plates are far better than others presumably due to different artists being used. Also quite weighty at 1150 grams. A much needed book to fill a big gap in Neo Tropics field guides.

I now need to organise a trip to Bolivia for the book to used for what it was originally attended for.
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Still no improvements of the situation?

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Very frustrated that we can't get this book, ………..


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This has been a terribly long time that a book has been out, but has essentially not made it to a main segment of the market, it seems.

The slow trickle whenever some books make it to Buteo Books can't exactly be the solution to fill the need.

NHBS mentions "negotiations", but it would seem slugs carry the answers back and forth.

Is there really still no light to be seen at the end of the tunnel?
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This has been a terribly long time that a book has been out, but has essentially not made it to a main segment of the market, it seems.

The slow trickle whenever some books make it to Buteo Books can't exactly be the solution to fill the need.

NHBS mentions "negotiations", but it would seem slugs carry the answers back and forth.

Is there really still no light to be seen at the end of the tunnel?
NHBS will charge a hefty 'add on' if they do ever get any books.

I'm after an Indian moth guide that costs about £30 in India, NHBS are the only one's who have it in the UK and they want £110, totally unjustifiable IMO............

I've actually given up on the Bolivia book now, I won't pay £90 for it which is a price I've seen attached to it somewhere?

I've been working on my Poyser collection recently, there's only about 10 I don't have now.
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NHBS will charge a hefty 'add on' if they do ever get any books.

I'm after an Indian moth guide that costs about £30 in India, NHBS are the only one's who have it in the UK and they want £110, totally unjustifiable IMO............

I've actually given up on the Bolivia book now, I won't pay £90 for it which is a price I've seen attached to it somewhere?

I've been working on my Poyser collection recently, there's only about 10 I don't have now.
To each their own priorities!

But if you want to visit Bolivia, and prepare for that trip, the price is secondary, unless you manage to get by with HBW Alive and/or the De La Peña book by Collins. Bolivia is only in part included there.
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Is there really still no light to be seen at the end of the tunnel?
I ordered a copy last year from Buteo and got it in the mail within weeks, on my first try. Must have been lucky!
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I ordered a copy last year from Buteo and got it in the mail within weeks, on my first try. Must have been lucky!
Actually, same with me :-), but a day later the supplies were gone. Now, my brother is looking for a copy. I have no intention to let him take along my copy, though he only wants to take the tour if he has a book.

And bookings both of the tour and the flights can't be done at the last minute. When he ordered his copy from Buteo a few weeks ago, he was told to be number 19 on the list. So it's obvious that there is a major bottleneck situation.
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