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Your pick btw 8x32, 8x42, 8.5x42?

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Old Thursday 5th July 2018, 13:34   #51
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I've found the 8x32 Conquest HD doesn't do a stellar job with glare - mostly crescent glare in strong light, but I have recently started to use the bin with the eye-cups all the way down. Result, almost all the glare is eliminated because it occurs far enough outside my FOV when my eyes are so close to the oculars that I simply don't see it.

Sure it's still there but it illustrates that user methods can affect results to a large degree as well. BTW - this super-close MOLCET-type view is fantastic - great sharpness and contrast and seemingly huge FOV as the fieldstop is reduced to a very narrow ring of black at the edge. I've done this with most of my bins in the past and going back to eye-cups out looks very narrow and seems to lack the great punch and sparkle of the close-in technique.
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This seems to work best for me too, with the eye cups all the way down, or at least, just out a little, to avoid smudges from fingers or eyelashes, etc. I love the difference in wide open viewing it presents. Granted, I am not wearing glasses for viewing, probably the same as James. But the view is so different than with the eyecups out farther, as James has noted, that even if I am inconvenienced at having to adjust my viewing technique to make it work, it is worth it for me.

It seems James has found the glare is reduced at times doing this, so it is surely something worthwhile trying if you haven't yet. Thank you for passing that on James!
I've got a few birder friends that do this all the time with their binoculars. No eyeglasses BUT eyecups all the day DOWN and just hold the binoculars away from their eye. WHY? Mostly because as their response is "I've always used binoculars this way" and they don't like the view with the eyecups extended.
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2018, 22:32   #52
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This is a VERY popular binuclear in birding circles.
my new favorite word. Slang for "binoculars that seem to make the world glow"
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my new favorite word. Slang for "binoculars that seem to make the world glow"
Swarovski may copyright that!
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Swarovski may copyright that!
Missed delivery on the 8x32, darn FedEx thinks the working mans home at 2:45PM
Can hardly wait
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Missed delivery on the 8x32, darn FedEx thinks the working mans home at 2:45PM
Can hardly wait
I'd be CRYING right now!
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Old Friday 13th July 2018, 00:44   #56
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Missed delivery on the 8x32, darn FedEx thinks the working mans home at 2:45PM
Can hardly wait
PM,

I hated when I did that...so I RETIRED!!!

Enjoy those wonderful EL 8X32 SV's!!!

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So if you could only have one between the Swarovski Swarovski 8x32 EL32, Swarovski 8x42 SLC or the Swarovski 8.5x42 EL42 what one would you get?
Easy, the EL SV 8.5x42, and that is in fact the only Swarovski I have.

Second choice would be the 8x30 CL B new model
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Old Friday 13th July 2018, 10:09   #58
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I own the SVs 8x32, 10x50 and 12x50. The 8.5x42 and 10x42 have the strongest RB effect in the SV line. Also, curiously, the bigger 50mm models felt better in my hands than the 8.5.
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"Swaroglow"
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I hated when I did that...so I RETIRED!!!

Enjoy those wonderful EL 8X32 SV's!!!

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I'm close to retirement too, stayed home to be there this time, too hot to work on a Friday the 13th anyway
I use Op/tech camera neck straps, this one can hold three times it's weight
Thanks for all the help, fits surprising well in my hands for it's size
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Old Saturday 14th July 2018, 20:08   #62
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Looking good!

What do you think so far??
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Old Monday 16th July 2018, 00:58   #64
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Looking good!

What do you think so far??
I had the Zeiss Conquest and find the Sw 8x32 brighter and especially for not being a 42 and so close in brightness.
To get my perfect no kidney bean by putting the eyecups all the way out with proper distance btw my eyes and it's amazing.
I tried the 7AM sun to my back and got a small violet color glare disk by itself.
But at other angles this discussed issue dose not apply
I love the sweet size and how easy it it to take with you.
Not going to give up my 10x but this is some nice glass
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Ok, this may surprise some, and I may get some stick, but here goes............

I got to spend a few days with an 8x32 SVFP and apart from some veiling glare issues really liked them, actually preferring them over the new CL in almost all areas, and seeing as I have the 8.5x for days when glare may be a problem decided to sell the CL and buy another 32mm SVFP.

I`ll be more able to comment how the 32 and 42 compare in future.

Still a massive fan of the new CL, but damn that 32 SV is sweet.
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Ok, this may surprise some, and I may get some stick, but here goes............

I got to spend a few days with an 8x32 SVFP and apart from some veiling glare issues really liked them, actually preferring them over the new CL in almost all areas, and seeing as I have the 8.5x for days when glare may be a problem decided to sell the CL and buy another 32mm SVFP.

I`ll be more able to comment how the 32 and 42 compare in future.

Still a massive fan of the new CL, but damn that 32 SV is sweet.
Can you expound on what you mean by?
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Old Tuesday 24th July 2018, 20:15   #67
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PlanetMaker..............I`ll try............I found with my non FP pair veiling glare manifested itself on dull overcast days when light levels needed my pupils to dilate to the 4mm EP or beyond, and on dull days I`ll almost certainly reach for the 42`s anyway.

I am feeling the FP may be a little better with VG anyway.
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Is there any difference in optical properties between the EL SV and EL SV FP? I did't think there was, perhaps with the original EL.

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PlanetMaker..............I`ll try............I found with my non FP pair veiling glare manifested itself on dull overcast days when light levels needed my pupils to dilate to the 4mm EP or beyond, and on dull days I`ll almost certainly reach for the 42`s anyway.

I am feeling the FP may be a little better with VG anyway.
Sorry still code to me, I know there are evolution's in coatings over the years but I don't know what "non FP pair" means? coating?
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Ok, this may surprise some, and I may get some stick, but here goes............

I got to spend a few days with an 8x32 SVFP and apart from some veiling glare issues really liked them, actually preferring them over the new CL in almost all areas, and seeing as I have the 8.5x for days when glare may be a problem decided to sell the CL and buy another 32mm SVFP.

I`ll be more able to comment how the 32 and 42 compare in future.

Still a massive fan of the new CL, but damn that 32 SV is sweet.
Yup. After 6 years using the 32 SV i have reached the same conclusion. That and the 8.5 SV is all I routinely use.

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Ok, this may surprise some, and I may get some stick, but here goes............

I got to spend a few days with an 8x32 SVFP and apart from some veiling glare issues really liked them, actually preferring them over the new CL in almost all areas, and seeing as I have the 8.5x for days when glare may be a problem decided to sell the CL and buy another 32mm SVFP.

I`ll be more able to comment how the 32 and 42 compare in future.

Still a massive fan of the new CL, but damn that 32 SV is sweet.
I couldn't agree more!

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Is there any difference in optical properties between the EL SV and EL SV FP? I did't think there was, perhaps with the original EL.

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AFAIK....no. Swarovski DOES always claim there can be small, continuous improvements/changes in coatings, etc from time to time.
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I just got a pair of secondhand 8.5x42 EL Fpro for about the same price as the SLCs. So, it was a no-brainer for me. Pretty much same weight, slightly worse FoV, but much better min distance, and the EL's rendering is fantastic. The min distance is important to me, as I'm sometimes looking at plants or insects.

I can only compare to my zeiss 10x42 HTs. The zeiss are a bit bulkier, and although only 1.2oz heaver feel heavier. The ELs view in daylight is better. I haven't had a chance to compare them in the evening yet (off to do that now!). I think the ELs feel a bit better in the hand and are a little easier to 1-handed focus, but that's very subjective.
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Chuck,

Thanks for the clarification. My 8.5X42s are in for a service, bought secondhand, pristine optics as everything else except the focus was slower on the right tube, slippage perhaps (minor), Looking forward to their return for the fall migration. They are a really nice glass, very similar to my 8X42 EDGs.

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