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Pike? John Redmond Reservoir, Kansas

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Old Tuesday 28th May 2019, 02:29   #1
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Pike? John Redmond Reservoir, Kansas

I'm not a fisherman but this probably is obvious to someone who is such. The flood gates where opened this last weekend at John Redmond Reservoir in Kansas, USA and large numbers of these were in the inundated grass along the shore and taking shelter in a narrow inlet just downstream of the dam. My guess was Pike, maybe drawn through the gates from the deep, cool waters at the base of the dam. Just curious to know.

(That is foam, not ice, from the nitrates from agricultural runoff)
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Old Tuesday 28th May 2019, 06:23   #2
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It's not a pike but can't help with positive identification...
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Old Tuesday 28th May 2019, 07:36   #3
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Gar of some sort. Don't know anything about which species are found where.
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Old Tuesday 28th May 2019, 07:39   #4
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Google suggests Long- nosed Gar.
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Old Tuesday 28th May 2019, 07:40   #5
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Agree that is a gar, perhaps alligator gar?
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This is from Wiki, it's probably worth reporting the sighting unless these are captive bred for release which from the number of them is possible, even likely?

' They are found throughout the lower Mississippi River Valley and Gulf Coast states of the Southern United States and Mexico as far south as Veracruz, encompassing Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Missouri, Illinois, Florida, and Georgia.[26] Reports suggest alligator gar were once numerous throughout much of their northern range, but valid sightings today are rare, and may occur once every few years.[7] Records of historical distribution indicate alligator gar once inhabited regions as far north as central Kansas, Nebraska, Ohio, Iowa, and west-central Illinois, where they are now listed as extirpated.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I now believe from what I have been able to dig out is that they are Gar and probably Short Nosed Gar - Lepisosteus platostomus. It is hard to find any info other than that the fishermen trying for Flathead Catfish don't care for them. From that though I found out that "Gar" in general without specific species are very common in the Neosho River. Apparently Gar in general like fast water to spawn in.
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Gar can really work over a lake's population of fish and fowl....a duckling wouldn't have much of a chance around those fish.
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Shortnose gar (Lepisosteus platostomus)
Spots are anterior and few on the caudal fin (tail)
Length of the mouth structure in comparison to the head.
Relatively clean look of the dorsal body

I grew up on the Mississippi and Missouri rivers, seen them almost daily for years as a kid
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