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Old Monday 7th May 2018, 14:01   #1
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Help Swarovski 10x50 EL inner dimensions?

Can anyone tell me what the inner dimensions are where you grab in between the bridge opening length?
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Old Monday 7th May 2018, 14:28   #2
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Can anyone tell me what the inner dimensions are where you grab in between the bridge opening length?
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My 35010 2nd gen. EL10X50SV measures 2 5\8" length between the hinges and 3\16" (min IPD) and 7\8" (max IPD) between the barrels.

Imagine the 35210 3rd gen. (Field Pro) should be very similar\same dimensions!

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PM,

My 35010 2nd gen. EL10X50SV measures 2 5\8" length between the hinges and 3\16" (min IPD) and 7\8" (max IPD) between the barrels.

Imagine the 35210 3rd gen. (Field Pro) should be very similar\same dimensions!

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Wow! thanks for the quick info, building a mount for mine, getting it Friday!
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Old Monday 7th May 2018, 16:28   #4
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See:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

There's an extra wingnut screwed onto each mount.

The small mount (show in use in other photos) fully supports the 10X50SV. The larger mount was built first; the smaller mount was for the 8X32 SV.
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Old Monday 7th May 2018, 16:33   #5
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Pileatus,

What is the model # for the Manfetto Tripod, and is that a mono pod attached to the counter weight. I am 6'3 and finding one for my height has been a bit of a challenge.

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What is the model # for the Manfetto Tripod, and is that a mono pod attached to the counter weight. I am 6'3 and finding one for my height has been a bit of a challenge.

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Kleen Canteen 27 oz. bottle (filled with sand; drapery cord loop for attachment to monopod)

Manfrotto Monopod (MM294A4)

128RC head mounted on 3021BN tripod legs…accepts the 200PL quick release plate.
Manfrotto Super Clamp (2900/035/035RL) Note: I attached the 200PL quick release plate.
Manfrotto 322RC2 Grip Action Ball Head attached to monopod…accepts 200PL quick release plate.

Swarovision on home made mount with 200PL quick release plate.

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In the photos, the lower part of each tripod leg is NOT extended.

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Pileatus,

Thank you for the valuable info. I like the sand idea, just add or subtract for different glass, instead of amassing counter weights. I am also hoping to set up my SLC in a parallelogram outfit so I can sit, or can set it up while standing with the tripod extended to eye level. The key for me is the tripod.
Thanks again.

Looks like tonight here on the east coast we will have clear sky's tonight.

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The IP distance can't be adjusted once mounted on the tripod without unhooking so I'm planning on making one like this and made out of a steel pipe so I can also eliminate the blind nut by taping the pipe
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The IP distance can't be adjusted once mounted on the tripod without unhooking so I'm planning on making one like this and made out of a steel pipe so I can also eliminate the blind nut by taping the pipe
With my setup the IPD can be adjusted simply by loosening the wingnut. It also allows for positioning forward/backward/sideways if you got the balance wrong the first time. The only point of failure is the quick release plate. I attach a short security strap to the bin/monopod for added insurance.

I considered the type you show but did not want to put that much pressure on one tube and it was more complex than mine. I used high friction mouse pads, red oak and a 5 inch stainless screw and wingnut.
Note: I do like the simplicity of the design you referenced and it may be an easier method than mine, especially if constructed without the blind nut.

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With my setup the IPD can be adjusted simply by loosening the wingnut. It also allows for positioning forward/backward/sideways if you got the balance wrong the first time. The only point of failure is the quick release plate. I attach a short security strap to the bin/monopod for added insurance.

I considered the type you show but did not want to put that much pressure on one tube and it was more complex than mine. I used high friction mouse pads, red oak and a 5 inch stainless screw and wingnut.
Made me think about one tube carrying the weight, anyone use the one tube over a long term use would be great to hear from.

I enjoy your setup for ease of being straight forward and a quick build, also "security strap to the bin/monopod for added insurance."
Got a picture of the "security strap"?
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Pileatus,

Thank you for the valuable info. I like the sand idea, just add or subtract for different glass, instead of amassing counter weights. I am also hoping to set up my SLC in a parallelogram outfit so I can sit, or can set it up while standing with the tripod extended to eye level. The key for me is the tripod.
Thanks again.

Looks like tonight here on the east coast we will have clear sky's tonight.

Andy W.
The stainless bottle is on a short cord that I loop twice around the end of the monopod. This allows me to move the weighted bottle OR I can reach over and adjust the monopod length for balance. In my case, this perfectly works with a 20 ounce bin and a 35 ounce bin.

One more thing, as I move around the sky I often adjust the monopod leg nearest the bin to adjust for the correct viewing angle INSTEAD of completely repositioning my chair. I get a few extra degrees this way. The adjustability of the monopod is key to overall performance and comfort.

Once I find a target I make adjustments with the pistol grip and then reach over and tighten the tripod. With the 10X50 motionless a whole new sky is available for my viewing pleasure. Handheld it's nothing but a mess of dancing streaks.

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Made me think about one tube carrying the weight, anyone use the one tube over a long term use would be great to hear from.

I enjoy your setup for ease of being straight forward and a quick build, also "security strap to the bin/monopod for added insurance."
Got a picture of the "security strap"?
Thanks
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I'll have to get a photo of the strap but it's just a simple connection.

The around the tube method really is nothing more than a mechanical set of fingers gripping the barrel. In my case, my 57mm IPD leaves very little room for a wraparound solution, however, it could surely be done with the right materials. My method was simple, foolproof and easy to make. It's also adjustable across the entire IPD range.
Note: It takes very little pressure to keep the bin in place and, as I've experienced, a loose wingnut only means the bin slips...it will not fall off due to the center screw (which is taped to avoid scratches.)

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Note: In the setup shown in post #5 there's a stainless water bottle filled with sand. I DO NOT take this when traveling by air. Instead, I purchase a 32 ounce bottle of gatorade and attach a cord (carried in luggage) to it.

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The stainless bottle is on a short cord that I loop twice around the end of the monopod. This allows me to move the weighted bottle OR I can reach over and adjust the monopod length for balance. In my case, this perfectly works with a 20 ounce bin and a 35 ounce bin.

One more thing, as I move around the sky I often adjust the monopod leg nearest the bin to adjust for the correct viewing angle INSTEAD of completely repositioning my chair. I get a few extra degrees this way. The adjustibility of the monopod is key to the overall perfomance and comfort.

Once I find a target I make adjustments with the pistol grip and then reach over and tighten the tripod. With the 10X50 motionless a whole new sky is available for my viewing pleasure. Handheld it's nothing but a mess of dancing streaks.

Enjoy.
That's so true and exciting "With the 10X50 motionless a whole new sky is available for my viewing pleasure"
Thanks for sharing your experience with the 10x50, get mine this Friday
Should have my mount ready by Friday also, here's a "close to done" mount in progress Schedule 40 2x4" galvanized pipe cut 4x including 1 1/2" slot for hold down strap, 1/4-20 drilled and taped, padding and finishing to follow.
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That's so true and exciting "With the 10X50 motionless a whole new sky is available for my viewing pleasure"
Thanks for sharing your experience with the 10x50, get mine this Friday
Should have my mount ready by Friday also, here's a "close to done" mount in progress Schedule 40 2x4" galvanized pipe cut 4x including 1 1/2" slot for hold down strap, 1/4-20 drilled and taped, padding and finishing to follow.
How do plan on protecting that screw head? Looks solid!!
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How do plan on protecting that screw head? Looks solid!!
When I put a lock washer between the arca swiss and cradle, (pipe part) plus the thickness of one sided velcro on the belly to the top of the arch of the outside of the cradle, along with the lock washer flush with the velcro causes the 1/4-20 to go flush in the cradle along with some lock tight ready to be padded over
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My 35010 2nd gen. EL10X50SV measures 2 5\8" length between the hinges and 3\16" (min IPD) and 7\8" (max IPD) between the barrels.

Imagine the 35210 3rd gen. (Field Pro) should be very similar\same dimensions!

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Also, what is the approximate width of the tube between the bridge?
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Also, what is the approximate width of the tube between the bridge?
Dan,

Each tube is 2 1\8"" diameter at the inside of the ocular bridge, 2 1\4" between the bridges and 2 3\8" diameter at the inside of the objective bridge (according to my digital calipers...not my eyes).

Again, this is for My 35010 2nd gen ELSV...I recommend to verify these findings with Your 35210 EL Field Pro on Friday, as the new FP armor has been also changed (thicker\thinner?)!!

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Each tube is 2 1\8"" diameter at the inside of the ocular bridge, 2 1\4" between the bridges and 2 3\8" diameter at the inside of the objective bridge (according to my digital calipers...not my eyes).
Again, this is for My 35010 2nd gen ELSV...I recommend to verify these findings with Your 35210 EL Field Pro on Friday!!

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Thanks, will let you know what the dimension of the latest one this weekend
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That's an intriguing build you've got going on Planet. Schedule 40 iron pipe eh? That should be strong enough

Does the other barrel just float, in space, relying on the tightness of the wrap of the one barrel to stabilized the bin?

This is getting me thinking about a mount that allows IPD adjustments, easily.
I'm having visions of a cradle, a hinge, and a sliding dovetail...
I'll keep you posted.
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I widen the cradle 2 1/4" all metal exposed surfaces are Velcro covered except the sides of the cradle are leather covered
1.5" W Velcro strap hold down, tested it holding 20lbs+ vs a 35oz pair of 10x50
Just waiting till Friday for the 10x50
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That's an intriguing build you've got going on Planet. Schedule 40 iron pipe eh? That should be strong enough

Does the other barrel just float, in space, relying on the tightness of the wrap of the one barrel to stabilized the bin?

This is getting me thinking about a mount that allows IPD adjustments, easily.
I'm having visions of a cradle, a hinge, and a sliding dovetail...
I'll keep you posted.
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Need a gearing set up something like this to move both tubes in unison
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I widen the cradle 2 1/4" all metal exposed surfaces are Velcro covered except the sides of the cradle are leather covered
1.5" W Velcro strap hold down, tested it holding 20lbs+ vs a 35oz pair of 10x50
Just waiting till Friday for the 10x50
How did you test it for a 20 lb load?
It looks great but I'm surprised that fuzzy velcro gives enough traction.

I'd have been tempted to use ABS pipe instead of iron. "Weld" extra layers with ABS cement to the bottom of the cradle, mill a flat section for the interface with your Arca plate, and rivet (or maybe through-bolt) it to the plate.

Looking forward to your feedback of how it works.

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I widen the cradle 2 1/4" all metal exposed surfaces are Velcro covered except the sides of the cradle are leather covered
1.5" W Velcro strap hold down, tested it holding 20lbs+ vs a 35oz pair of 10x50
Just waiting till Friday for the 10x50
Simple, solid and secured...very nice creation Dan!

Mine (on the cheap and easy) is a Leupold bino holder. Actually steadies the 10X50 SV well, but nothing like sch 40 pipe (need to add a safety lanyard to mine)!!

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