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Old Thursday 22nd March 2018, 00:16   #401
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Had the binoculars out and was viewing after sunset in the dark when the street lights and porch lights were on. Of the 4 binoculars, I wasn't able to see anymore or less when using the x32 or the x30. However, I was able to see a little bit more when using the Leica x42. My preference on this criteria is the Leica.

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Old Thursday 22nd March 2018, 22:46   #402
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Had the binoculars out and was viewing after sunset in the dark when the street lights and porch lights were on. Of the 4 binoculars, I wasn't able to see anymore or less when using the x32 or the x30. However, I was able to see a little bit more when using the Leica x42. My preference on this criteria is the Leica.

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Old Thursday 22nd March 2018, 22:49   #403
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Old Friday 23rd March 2018, 00:49   #404
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Old Sunday 25th March 2018, 14:20   #405
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Had the binoculars out viewing around the neighborhood, an environment rich with perpendicular and parallel lines: horizontal and vertical siding, rectangular windows and doors, mullions and muntins and panels, brick coursing, fence picket and rail, and so on. Of the 4 the swarovski had the least pin cushion distortion. It was similar to the Zeiss but a smidgen less. The Leica and Maven a noticeable step to being more traditional in this regard. I tend to prefer less pincushion in the man made environment and more in the non man made environment; on this criteria my preference seems to be conditional. So, no winner here.

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Old Sunday 13th May 2018, 21:18   #406
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Hi All,

First hike of the season and took the CL 8x30's along. Had the strap on and the binocular dangling about my neck. About 3 miles and only used them a couple of times. Not much to report here....

Second hike of the season and took the CL 8x30's along. This time w/o strap and carried them in the outer pocket of my day pack; this is my preferred way to hike with binoculars. Went 10.5 miles mostly on dry/wet trails, but did have to use trail crampons for about 2.5 miles at higher elevations where the trails were still covered in snow. Had the binoculars out on 3 occasions for about 15 to 20 minutes per occasion. 1st viewing was of 200+ head of elk from 30 to 80 yards laying/grazing in a large valley. Lighting conditions must have been pretty difficult as there was a haze that blew in from Arizona forest fires and some snow covered areas were still on the ground and reflecting light. Was amused by a Magpie that perched atop the head of a cow which she didn't seem to mind the company. Views were showing considerable glare and CA off axis and not so far off axis. Didn't have anything on hand to compare it to, but suspect other glass wouldn't be much different. 2nd viewing was of a group of four bulls with antler starting back and covered in velvet. Pretty much the same here but the haze was more distracting than anything. Third viewing was at a higher elevation lake and watched a Stellar Jay, Barn Swallow, and Crow among aspen trees with rippled water and lily pad just starting to poke thru the surface. These views were brilliant... the blues, blacks, and yellow color of the birds and the white grey black of the aspen trunks and branches and the unfocused rippled water as backdrop... if there was only a button to take a picture! Only complaint I have here is the view seemed flat and lacked 3D quality.... otherwise really nice views.

Well that is a typical hiking scenario for me. Walk a lot and view little but for a longer period of time (probably resting and catching my breath). My preference is to haul the extra size and weight of the x30/32 format and enjoy their comfort of use and forgo the pocket models.

On the down side unfortunately, the hinge end cap detached while I was using the binocular but was lucky enough to notice and was able to find the piece to reattach later. If you are wondering what it looks like under the end cap... well here's a pic.

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My preference is to haul the extra size and weight of the x30/32 format and enjoy their comfort of use and forgo the pocket models.

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Do you prefer your conquest 8x32 to the 8x30CLs? Which of the 4 bins do you like best?
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I've been receiving this question from a few people. They are all very good binoculars!!!

Choosing which is best ... well there is no standout. You need to look at it as they are all very good with their own set of qualities (positive and negative). At times one will shine a bit more than the others, or shine a bit less - and it is always changing which one it is.

Your personal preferences will be the biggest deciding factor among them.

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These sound quite amazing. I currently have a 10x42 SLC which I enjoy but have been hoping to find something smaller and with faster focusing for warbler seasons. Has anyone tried both and what would I be missing if I switched to the 10x30? I’m assuming detail in lower light but how noticeable would the difference be?

I bought my wife a conquest 8x32 hd a few years ago and was always extremely happy with the super sharp view except for the very cold dead colors which I couldn’t deal with. I’m hoping that this would be as good as the zeiss but with the nice swaro colors.
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These sound quite amazing. I currently have a 10x42 SLC which I enjoy but have been hoping to find something smaller and with faster focusing for warbler seasons. Has anyone tried both and what would I be missing if I switched to the 10x30? I’m assuming detail in lower light but how noticeable would the difference be?

I bought my wife a conquest 8x32 hd a few years ago and was always extremely happy with the super sharp view except for the very cold dead colors which I couldn’t deal with. I’m hoping that this would be as good as the zeiss but with the nice swaro colors.


I don't think that switching to a 10x30 will help you as much as switching to an 8 power binocular will.

Keep your 10x42 SLC and get the Swarovski CL Companion 8x30 B instead of another 10 power binocular. I have the Swarovski CL Companion 8x30 B and it is a remarkably good binocular! By far the best 8x30/32 I have ever used! It is very sharp and its colors are first rate.

You will get greater Depth of Field and a wider Field of View using an 8x42 or an 8x30/32 for warbler season. As a result, your focusing will be more efficient when you are following the warblers through the foliage.

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Old Wednesday 12th September 2018, 19:02   #411
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These sound quite amazing. I currently have a 10x42 SLC which I enjoy but have been hoping to find something smaller and with faster focusing for warbler seasons. Has anyone tried both and what would I be missing if I switched to the 10x30? Iím assuming detail in lower light but how noticeable would the difference be?

I bought my wife a conquest 8x32 hd a few years ago and was always extremely happy with the super sharp view except for the very cold dead colors which I couldnít deal with. Iím hoping that this would be as good as the zeiss but with the nice swaro colors.
Weird, I find the Conquest a bit on the warm side, colour-wise, a bit creamy whites but I'd never call the view cold, not even close.
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Weird, I find the Conquest a bit on the warm side, colour-wise, a bit creamy whites but I'd never call the view cold, not even close.
There must be quite a sample variation in the conquests because mine are nowhere near warm. Zeiss camera lenses are also very similar in that they tend to be on the cool side of neutral. I have read that they tend to favor blue light in their coatings because it increases the sense of brightness. Tvs Iím ahowrooms also bump up blue light levels to make th screens seem brighter, which consumers seem to like.

The only zeiss Iíve ever used that did not have a cool cast is an 8x32 terra that I bought for my father in law. It had a slightly warm cast and amazing optics for the price.
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I don't think that switching to a 10x30 will help you as much as switching to an 8 power binocular will.

Keep your 10x42 SLC and get the Swarovski CL Companion 8x30 B instead of another 10 power binocular. I have the Swarovski CL Companion 8x30 B and it is a remarkably good binocular! By far the best 8x30/32 I have ever used! It is very sharp and its colors are first rate.

You will get greater Depth of Field and a wider Field of View using an 8x42 or an 8x30/32 for warbler season. As a result, your focusing will be more efficient when you are following the warblers through the foliage.

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Yes I realize that an 8x42/30 would give me a wider fov over a 10x but I enjoy the extra magnification. I canít justify 2 alphas for myself. Iím just curious if the seemingly magic 10x30 cl b is as easy to the eye as a 10x42 SLC? The SLC has a very slow focusing mechanism.
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