Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
Discover the ZEISS Digital Nature Hub

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

caterpillar for ID

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old Monday 23rd May 2005, 08:34   #1
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
added new caterpillars for ID

Hi,
Added another 14/8/05;
Added another 25/6/05;
Added one more 20/6/05;
Added more images 19/6/05;
Added 3 new images 6/6/05;

I have done a couple of passes of Jim Porter's Caterpillars of the BI (including reading descriptions of what seemed the most likely types) and a quick scan of the Whatsthiscaterpillar site withou success.

Seen at RSPB Rye Meads, Herts, UK 23-05-2005

Any offers?

Thanks,
Hugh
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	55E22D0660.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	54.8 KB
ID:	21640  Click image for larger version

Name:	55E22D0661.jpg
Views:	153
Size:	61.9 KB
ID:	21641  

Last edited by 138mph : Sunday 14th August 2005 at 20:49.
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 23rd May 2005, 09:06   #2
harry eales
Ancient Entomologist
 
harry eales's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Low Westwood, Durham. England.
Posts: 4,820
Quote:
Originally Posted by 138mph
Hi,
I have done a couple of passes of Jim Porter's Caterpillars of the BI (including reading descriptions of what seemed the most likely types) and a quick scan of the Whatsthiscaterpillar site withou success.

Seen at RSPB Rye Meads, Herts, UK 23-05-2005

Any offers?

Thanks,
Hugh
Hello Hugh,

It looks suspiciously like a young (early instar) Small Tortoiseshell Butterfly larva to me. What was it feeding on?

Harry
harry eales is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 23rd May 2005, 10:11   #3
Wandered Scot
Registered User
 
Wandered Scot's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 579
I would go with that Harry.

Jim
Wandered Scot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 23rd May 2005, 14:55   #4
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry eales
Hello Hugh,

It looks suspiciously like a young (early instar) Small Tortoiseshell Butterfly larva to me. What was it feeding on?

Harry
Thanks for the ID, I have just found a site that shows 5th instar as looking rather like my image.
It was on Nettle but looked as if it had fallen there from something else.

Hugh
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 6th June 2005, 16:34   #5
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Question another couple for ID

Some small black ones and the other looks vaguely like Vapourer to me?
All Bedfordshire, UK June 5th.

Thanks in advance as usual,
Hugh
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	55F05D0087.jpg
Views:	119
Size:	44.8 KB
ID:	22798  Click image for larger version

Name:	55F05D0096.jpg
Views:	132
Size:	25.0 KB
ID:	22799  Click image for larger version

Name:	55F05D0097.jpg
Views:	129
Size:	37.0 KB
ID:	22800  
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 6th June 2005, 18:27   #6
harry eales
Ancient Entomologist
 
harry eales's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Low Westwood, Durham. England.
Posts: 4,820
Quote:
Originally Posted by 138mph
Some small black ones and the other looks vaguely like Vapourer to me?
All Bedfordshire, UK June 5th.

Thanks in advance as usual,
Hugh
Hello Hugh,

I would agree with the Vapourer Moth larva, your first picture is of young Ladybird larva.

Harry
harry eales is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 6th June 2005, 18:47   #7
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry eales
Hello Hugh,

I would agree with the Vapourer Moth larva, your first picture is of young Ladybird larva.

Harry
Thanks again!
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 19th June 2005, 08:55   #8
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Question A couple for checking ...

Found on June 11th 2005, I make these:

6spot Burnet cocoon (high on grass, reasonably noticeable), North Wales;
6spot Burnet - as above;
6 spot ? - as above;
Yellow-tail - Menai Bridge, Anglesey, UK

Thanks,
Hugh
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	55F11D0239.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	10.3 KB
ID:	23775  Click image for larger version

Name:	55F11D0242.jpg
Views:	121
Size:	17.1 KB
ID:	23776  Click image for larger version

Name:	55F11D0259.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	27.2 KB
ID:	23777  Click image for larger version

Name:	55F11D0279.jpg
Views:	115
Size:	40.9 KB
ID:	23778  

Last edited by 138mph : Sunday 19th June 2005 at 08:59.
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 20th June 2005, 05:55   #9
Wandered Scot
Registered User
 
Wandered Scot's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 579
Morning Hugh.

The cocoon I cannot vouch for as I have never seen one pupate, but if you are reading from Porters it would certainly be indicative.

The others appear fine.

Cheers

Jim
Wandered Scot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 20th June 2005, 21:45   #10
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Question a small caterpillar

Well, I think that its a moth/butterfly caterpillar:
Very small, looping, on Nettle; Sharpenhoe, Beds, UK; 20/06/05

Any offers on an ID?

Thanks,
Hugh
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	55F20D0998.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	19.5 KB
ID:	23974  
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 21st June 2005, 06:13   #11
Wandered Scot
Registered User
 
Wandered Scot's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 579
Mmmm. looping or rippling? Not sure from photo but was it like this one?

If so, it is not moth or butterfly, this was one I wanted to show Harry earlier in year as I think it is beetle but not sure. Mine had what looked like a snout in the front rather than head, unfortunately the snout photo was badly blurred and since deleted.

Cheers

Jim
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	JPG Unknown P4292222.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	92.1 KB
ID:	24014  
Wandered Scot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 21st June 2005, 07:39   #12
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wandered Scot
Mmmm. looping or rippling? Not sure from photo but was it like this one?

If so, it is not moth or butterfly, this was one I wanted to show Harry earlier in year as I think it is beetle but not sure. Mine had what looked like a snout in the front rather than head, unfortunately the snout photo was badly blurred and since deleted.

Cheers

Jim
Guess maybe, very small and difficylt to see, I managed this second image. I sort of suspected it wasn't really a moth/butterfly caterpillar.
HUgh
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	55F20D0995.jpg
Views:	81
Size:	10.3 KB
ID:	24019  
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 25th June 2005, 08:32   #13
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Another caterpillar

Afraid that I cannot seem to ID this one either, it seems to me it should be pretty straightforward.
Thanks,
Hugh
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	55F23D1114.jpg
Views:	123
Size:	15.2 KB
ID:	24242  
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 27th June 2005, 05:43   #14
Wandered Scot
Registered User
 
Wandered Scot's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 579
'Seems' is unfortunately a word I have learned to avoid, but still make the mistake of using it with caterpillars!

In this case though Hugh, you have enough spots with stripes that it is maybe Dusky Sallow, Eremobia ochroleuca. According to Porter it feeds on ´The flowers and seeds of cock's-foot, couch, other grasses and sometimes cultivated cereal crops.` Does that seem likely to be or have been the case?

If you have it still try this for a menu. It doesn't look like it is in final instar yet, and would probably end stronger in colour, and will get a bit of a brown head.

Jim
Wandered Scot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 29th June 2005, 21:38   #15
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wandered Scot
'Seems' is unfortunately a word I have learned to avoid, but still make the mistake of using it with caterpillars!

In this case though Hugh, you have enough spots with stripes that it is maybe Dusky Sallow, Eremobia ochroleuca. According to Porter it feeds on ´The flowers and seeds of cock's-foot, couch, other grasses and sometimes cultivated cereal crops.` Does that seem likely to be or have been the case?

If you have it still try this for a menu. It doesn't look like it is in final instar yet, and would probably end stronger in colour, and will get a bit of a brown head.

Jim
Thanks for that, I guess I need to look closer at some of the photos in the book - that one is a tad small! I found it on suitable grasses, so it seems highly likely that you are correct.

Hugh
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 14th August 2005, 20:48   #16
138mph
Registered User
 
138mph's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kempston, Bedford, Beds, UK
Posts: 408
Question another caterpillar ...

A small (maybe 15mm long) caterpillar that I found on my car's bootlid
- Bedforshire today (probably blown from trees or bushes outside a house where the car was parked overnight).

Thanks
Hugh
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	55H14D0276.jpg
Views:	111
Size:	21.1 KB
ID:	27808  
138mph is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 14th August 2005, 22:20   #17
harry eales
Ancient Entomologist
 
harry eales's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Low Westwood, Durham. England.
Posts: 4,820
Quote:
Originally Posted by 138mph
A small (maybe 15mm long) caterpillar that I found on my car's bootlid
- Bedforshire today (probably blown from trees or bushes outside a house where the car was parked overnight).

Thanks
Hugh
Hello Hugh,
That looks more like the larva of a fly to me, rather than a lepidopterous species.

Harry
harry eales is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 16th August 2005, 05:47   #18
Wandered Scot
Registered User
 
Wandered Scot's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 579
Or Beetle, but not Lep.

Attached is something very similar found earlier in year.

Jim
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	JPG Unknown P4292222.jpg
Views:	84
Size:	92.1 KB
ID:	27913  
Wandered Scot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 16th August 2005, 19:59   #19
mothman
Registered User
 
mothman's Avatar

 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wiltshire,England,UK
Posts: 1,484
Quote:
Originally Posted by 138mph
A small (maybe 15mm long) caterpillar that I found on my car's bootlid
- Bedforshire today (probably blown from trees or bushes outside a house where the car was parked overnight).

Thanks
Hugh
I think that is almost certainly one of the aphid eating hoverfly larvae sp.

Colin
__________________
Colin.

MOTHMAN!
Headbutting lightbulbs for truth justice and the English way.
mothman is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Moth & caterpillar ID? 138mph Butterflies and Moths 31 Friday 15th July 2005 12:09
Caterpillar, in November? rogerk Butterflies and Moths 7 Sunday 28th November 2004 21:33
Caterpillar i.d. Ppedro Butterflies and Moths 3 Sunday 3rd October 2004 19:47
What caterpillar is this please? Reader Butterflies and Moths ID 22 Tuesday 31st August 2004 22:25
Caterpillar Reference Sites? Muskrat Butterflies and Moths 2 Sunday 1st August 2004 13:31



Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.29114509 seconds with 34 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 19:42.