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Opticron Adventurer or Hawke Nature-Trek 8x42 (1 Viewer)

frootz

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Hello,

I'm after my first pair of binoculars for bird and general wildlife watching. I managed to narrow it down to these two:

Opticron Adventurer 8x42 (£60 approx)
Hawke NatureTrek 8x42 (£80 approx)

I've seen a good review online for the Hawke ones and an online specialist retailer has recommended these over the Opticrons. But, does anyone have any opinons as to which would be best?

Are the Hawke ones worth £20 more?

Many thanks in advance if you take the time to reply.
 
I couldn't say for sure. The Hawke has the wider view and better close focus which sounds better, but I've not tried them and really don't know what the quality of view is like for either. It really is good advice to try a few for yourself before deciding which to buy.

Both Opticron and Hawke are good brands to buy from as they have a good reputations for customer support. What does puzzle me though is that Opticron don't list that model currently or in their archive

I probably should be explaining why you should spend a bit more money for phase coated pair or go for the old fashioned porro prism type of binoculars, but in reality it's pushing up the budget quite a bit unless you can find a really good deal. I had a quick look and the best deal I spotted was about £95 for a pair that should be better than those and then it was not from such a well known brand.

Do give them a try and decide if you like them before buying.

Good luck,

David
 
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Many thanks for the good advice that's much appreciated. I will make sure I try a few first as suggested.

Can you give me an idea of any that you would recommend that are known makes that are phase coated? I could be tempted to save up a bit more if I'm really going to get better deal in the long run!

Thanks again for your help.
 
There are are number of guides to buying binoculars on line that that certainly explain the technicalities more eloquently than I can. This is a good place to start:
http://www.betterviewdesired.com/The-Ideal-Birding-Binocular.php

A binocular, particularly roof prism designs, need various coatings to the prism an the lenses to perform optimally. Skipping the details, the difference between the budget pairs and the expensive ones there can be around 50% less light transmission. Those pairs you mentioned may seem pretty good on a bright summer's day but might quickly run out of steam in low light. Look for the terms fully multicoated and phase coated for starters. These coatings add to the price. The porro prism designs are simpler and give more bang for your buck.

Below about £300 most roofs are generally made in China. The quality is improving all the time, and indeed some are very good indeed. Unfortunately quality control isn't always what it should be so I feel it's important to either buy from a brand with good customer support or a retailer you can trust to get things put right for you if you spot a problem. Binoculars do go wrong occasionally, even the most expensive brands, and you would want to get things put right quickly. Check the warranty, but the retailer is responsible for putting things right in the first year in the UK. Unfortunately it doesn't always work as well as it should.

Depending on the brand, the list price for the entry level phase coated model is typically £130 to £200, but if you scout around for sales, ex-demos, discontinued models, used, and the like, they crop up fairly regularly close to the £100 mark. Of course you can occasionally find an excellent deal on auction sites. I recently saw £350 pairs sell for under £50, but I'm sure you understand the risks.

I'm sure many of the brands have very good customer support, but in the lower price range, Hawke and Opticron seem to get more positive comments here than some, but that shouldn't put you off other brands. Repairs might take a bit longer, but probably the retailer is the most important link. There are a number of stores that specialise in birding with rural settings for testing which have good reputations, but your local camera shop may be just as protective of their reputations and offer good service. Some of the big online retailers are fine. They might be rather anonymous but appear to readily replace problem pairs.

It's quite a while since I had a good look at the cheaper offerings I'm afraid. Just picking out a few brands that have been recommended here, Bushnell, Vortex, Nikon, Opticron, Hawke, Viking for starters. Don't ignore the more obscure names. I remember seeing good cheap pairs from Helios and Celestron which are often heavily discounted.

While a 8x42 is probably the most versatile format, you often get better deals on the 8x32s. These are often cheaper to start with and can offer wider views and better close focus. One I enjoyed trying recently was the Opticron Discovery 8x32. Yes, they won't work as well under the gloomiest conditions, but then I'm often heading home when it's that bad.

Good luck,

David
 
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Well I've had a look through a few at various retailers - and managed to walk away to have a think. The budget may well have gone up to £350 now!

Any advice on the best pair in this price range would be much appreciated.
 
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