pimpelmees
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is it still a good choice to buy this one
is it still a good choice to buy this one
And Paddy, I think we'd agree that no criticism of the 883 is implied. It's just that the little 65 mm Swaro performs very nearly as well under most circumstances. Even Gerald Dobler, the development team leader for the Zeiss Harpia, suggested in his interview with Troubador that 65 mm scopes were ideal for magnifications up to around 40x.
Although the Kowa will sustain very high magnifications with an extender or astro eyepieces (the Swaro too) under ideal conditions, I find that atmospherics mostly limit practical magnifications to 50x or less.
John
The ATS/ATM in 65mm in HD incarnation is as good as the ATX 65mm in my opinion.
I've spent much of last month comparing the ATX 65mm with my ATM 65mm HD with the 25-50x e/p. The little ATM is better, without question. I've tried like heck to find something optically better about the ATX, but damned if I can. That's the unbiased truth. I own both scopes.
V interesting. I have the ATM 80 HD with 25-50. My friend has the ATX 95. We bird together quite a lot and last autumn we were in the Western Isles. A mutual friend with us that week compared both and favoured the ATM over the ATX. At the time I was inclined to agree but have not done any camparisons since.
Alan
Purely based by objective size I'd say that, optically, the 95 should totally outcompete the 80. Weight, price etc are obviously other considerations ('best optics at a given weight point' for those who hike, for instance), but if the optical performances of a 95 are comparable to a 80 I'd be inclined to call the 95 a lemon.
The ATS/ATM in 65mm in HD incarnation is as good as the ATX 65mm in my opinion.
I've spent much of last month comparing the ATX 65mm with my ATM 65mm HD with the 25-50x e/p. The little ATM is better, without question. I've tried like heck to find something optically better about the ATX, but damned if I can. That's the unbiased truth. I own both scopes.