Two moths from Suffolk (1 Viewer)

Sharp Shin

Stewart Belfield

• Sep 23, 2018

• #1

ID help please for these two moths, both photos taken in August in rural Suffolk. The first I take for a Thorn, but I can't square the wing pattern with, say, Dusky Thorn. The second, I first took to be Bulrush Wainscot, but again the fit didn't seem quite right.

I'm pretty much a novice at this!

Thanks Stewart

 

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honeym

Well-known member

• Sep 23, 2018

• #2

I don't know why but my response to this has vanished.

I asked if you had any other pictures of #2 as it certainly looks odd.

Martin

 

Sharp Shin

Stewart Belfield

• Sep 23, 2018

• #3

Hi Martin

I'm afraid that I don't have any more photos. I was outside taken photographs of a Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing, when this specimen appeared so I took a quick photo of it. It was against the same grill at the LBBYU, and I can say that they were about the same length. Gosh, it does look 'odd' and I'm beginning to wonder it is actually a moth (and not, say, a caddis fly!).

Anyway, the first - Thorn-like specimen - is certainly a moth.

Stewart

 

honeym

Well-known member

• Sep 24, 2018

• #4

I was also wondering about a caddis - but not one I've seen. Might be worth posting in the 'other insects' thread (Insects, Dragonflies, Arachnids, Beetles & More).
Martin

 

Sharp Shin

Stewart Belfield

• Sep 24, 2018

• #5

Martin

In post #2, you say that your initial reply had ‘vanished’. Did that reply contain an identification of the first (Thorn-type) moth?

I’ll probably take up your suggestion and repost the second image to the ‘other insects’ threads.

Thanks again - Stewart

 

honeym

Well-known member

• Sep 24, 2018

• #6

I thought you were right with a Thorn but I thought it was a bit too yellow for Dusky - but I've never seen one quite like that.
Martin

 

Sharp Shin

Stewart Belfield

• Sep 24, 2018

• #7

Thanks Martin.

It was the dark patches on the mid-outer wing that foxed me. I can't find a match with any Thorn (but, as I said, I'm pretty much a novice at this!).

Anyone else got an idea?

Stewart