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Old Thursday 14th January 2010, 08:52   #1
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Spectacled Flowerpecker

Edwards, Webster & Rowlett 2009. 'Spectacled Flowerpecker': a species new to science discovered in Borneo? BirdingASIA 12: 38-41.
http://www.orientalbirdclub.org/publ...owerpecker.pdf

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PS. BirdingASIA 12 will also include:
Pilgrim, Inskipp & Collar 2009. Taxonomic update: Species-level changes suggested for Asian birds, 2007-2008.

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Old Thursday 14th January 2010, 09:15   #2
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Edwards, Webster & Rowlett 2009. 'Spectacled Flowerpecker': a species new to science discovered in Borneo? BirdingASIA 12: 38-41.
http://www.orientalbirdclub.org/publ...owerpecker.pdf
They say that the calls are similar to those made by the Fire-breasted Flowerpecker D. igniventris. Isn't it D. ignipectus ?
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Old Thursday 14th January 2010, 09:22   #3
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They say that the calls are similar to those made by the Fire-breasted Flowerpecker D. igniventris. Isn't it D. ignipectus ?
Oops! The OBC website states that BirdingASIA 12 is at the printers. Stop press...

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PS. Too late - just received e-mail: "BirdingASIA 12 is now at the mailing house and should be sent out to UK
members before the end of this week".

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...The Fire-breasted Flowerpecker D. igniventris. Isn't it D. ignipectus ?
It is ignipectus, named by Blythe/Hodgson in Nov./Dec. 1843 J. A. S. Bengal. If it was igniventris it would be the Fire-bellied Flowerpecker not the Fire-breasted!
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Old Thursday 14th January 2010, 11:16   #5
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quite a striking bird in it's own understated way! Amazing that it hasn't been recorded before, given the number of birders at DV. The again there are even more striking precedants...

Wouldn't mind betting that there's a specimen or two tucked away in a draw somewhere.
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how many birder than have seen this bird and misidentified it or assumed it was some weird morph or out of area stray? Really makes you wonder what is missed right under your nose when birding
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how many birder than have seen this bird and misidentified it or assumed it was some weird morph or out of area stray?
May be not that many if this bird proves to be a canopy dweller.
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yeah but people must have seen or heard a dot of a flowerpecker flying overhead and think nothing of it, most of the flyover flowerpeckers i've seen have had this treatment!
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yeah but people must have seen or heard a dot of a flowerpecker flying overhead and think nothing of it, most of the flyover flowerpeckers i've seen have had this treatment!
I definitely have...I'm ticking it!!!
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Old Friday 15th January 2010, 00:48   #10
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Hahahah yes especially when the calls from Flowerpecker a bit similar with the others !
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I posted this comment on the Borneo thread yesterday (managed to miss this thread despite searching!)...

"It's interesting that a canopy specialist, if that is what it is, can be so cryptic but echoes a similar case with the discovery of Choco Vireo in Colombia in the early 1990s, which is a small, high canopy species that moves quickly through the forest near the front of bird waves (and is thus difficult to detect)."
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Reviving this to add a link to new photos

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Edwards, Webster & Rowlett 2009. 'Spectacled Flowerpecker': a species new to science discovered in Borneo? BirdingASIA 12: 3841. [pdf]
Sykes & Loseby 2015. More on Borneo's 'Spectacled' Flowerpecker. BirdingASIA 23: 126127.

(Includes three photos of the undescribed species.)
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... and the fact that it may well not be a canopy specialist after all!
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It has been officially described now.

A distinctive new species of flowerpecker (Passeriformes: Dicaeidae) from Borneo
JACOB R. SAUCIER, CHRISTOPHER M. MILENSKY, MARCOS A. CARABALLO-ORTIZ, ROSLINA RAGAI, N. FARIDAH DAHLAN, DAVID P. EDWARDS Zootaxa Vol 4686, No 4 17 Oct. 2019

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The enigmatic ‘Spectacled Flowerpecker’—a probable new bird species from the island of Borneo—was first sighted in the Danum Valley of Sabah, Malaysia in 2009. However, the absence of a holotype specimen has prevented its formal scientific description. Since then only a handful of reports from widely disparate localities across the island have emerged, all from lowland sites and often in close association with fruiting mistletoe. Here, we report the long-awaited capture of a specimen of this putative new species and confirm its morphological and molecular distinctiveness as a novel species in the genus Dicaeum.
Dicaeum dayakorum, species novum

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What could be his French name, Dice des Dayaks ? how to translate spectacled in French?
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how to translate spectacled in French?
" lunettes".
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Not a bad name.
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It has been officially described now.

A distinctive new species of flowerpecker (Passeriformes: Dicaeidae) from Borneo
JACOB R. SAUCIER, CHRISTOPHER M. MILENSKY, MARCOS A. CARABALLO-ORTIZ, ROSLINA RAGAI, N. FARIDAH DAHLAN, DAVID P. EDWARDS Zootaxa Vol 4686, No 4 17 Oct. 2019



Dicaeum dayakorum, species novum

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Wow, finally.
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Whoopee, another dead bird in a museum drawer. Go science.
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Whoopee, another dead bird in a museum drawer. Go science.
I think one type is acceptable given the widespread distribution. I would prefer to avoid, but the conservation status is unlikely to be affected.

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I think one type is acceptable given the widespread distribution. I would prefer to avoid, but the conservation status is unlikely to be affected.

cheers, a
It's not the effect on the conservation status of this species, which I agree is probably negligible, but the principle. This species wasn't undescribed in anything other than the narrow and increasingly meaningless sense used by taxonomists. All that has changed is there is a dead one in a drawer somewhere, and another notch on a few academic CVs. The abstract is factually incorrect to state that the lack of a holotype prevented earlier description. All that was required was to designate a photograph or even a painting as depicting the holotype, both of which have been available for years.

And lf course, it probably won't be just one specimen. If other individuals are mist netted, they will get potted too. Got to have a decent series, preferably from multiple locations.
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Yep pathetically backward still....
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In case of Spectacled Flowerpecker, there was a strong suspicion this is a morph of some other species. Although I agree, that in principle it could be clarified by DNA from a sample of feathers of blood without harming the bird.
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It has been officially described now.

A distinctive new species of flowerpecker (Passeriformes: Dicaeidae) from Borneo
JACOB R. SAUCIER, CHRISTOPHER M. MILENSKY, MARCOS A. CARABALLO-ORTIZ, ROSLINA RAGAI, N. FARIDAH DAHLAN, DAVID P. EDWARDS Zootaxa Vol 4686, No 4 17 Oct. 2019



Dicaeum dayakorum, species novum

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Oct 29 Post proposed new species Spectacled Flowerpecker
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