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Old Sunday 3rd November 2019, 18:41   #1
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Pale Rock Sparrow Pakistan

Taken in the Kirthar National Park of Sindh - November 2018.

Just wanted further confirmation - first national record and maybe from Oriental Bird Club region.

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Old Sunday 3rd November 2019, 21:08   #2
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Agreed Pale Rockfinch (= Pale Rock Sparrow)

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Old Sunday 3rd November 2019, 21:54   #3
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I don't think this is the first record for the OBC region, with well-documented records from Western India. Interestingly, there is an Oct 2019 record from southern India on ebird. Photos of this bird look rather odd.
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Old Sunday 3rd November 2019, 22:15   #4
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Interestingly, there is an Oct 2019 record from southern India on ebird. Photos of this bird look rather odd.
Would that be this thing by any chance? A whole series of 35 pics posted on Wiki Commons very recently. My suspicion is it's a leucistic weaver of some sort.
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Would that be this thing by any chance? A whole series of 35 pics posted on Wiki Commons very recently. My suspicion is it's a leucistic weaver of some sort.
Yes. I don't know what it is to be honest, although it doesn't look like a weaver to me. The shape and bill looks quite good for Pale Rock Sparrow, I would think.
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In first week of February 2012 we had a flock of some 250 in Gujarat, near Bhuj (I've attached a photo of mine), which I believe was the first for the region.

Following on from that, turns out it was a bumper year for them:
http://indianbirds.in/pdfs/IB7.6_Poo...ockSparrow.pdf

The pale bird is written up here (also in 2012):
http://indianbirds.in/pdfs/IB8.3_Sin...ockSparrow.pdf
Note wing projection and bill shape.

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Thanks James. I'm a bit confused: is the recent South Indian bird (October 2019) considered the same individual as the pale bird from 2012, which would be quite remarkable? If not, it seems equally remarkable that what appear to be two partially leucistic vagrants would occur so far out of range in the same general area. Or am I mistaking bleaching for leucism?
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