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Old Tuesday 12th May 2020, 18:30   #1
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two for ID, please

Any clues on these two? photographed today in our garden.
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The best I can come up with are a) a soldier-fly such as Norellisoma spinimanum and b) a beetle such as Carabus nemoralis.
Does that ring bells with anyone?
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Old Wednesday 13th May 2020, 18:25   #3
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No ideas for the fly atm, but the beetle is not a Carabid (Carabidae have 5 segmented tarsi, this one has apparently 4); I'd be more inclined to look in the Chrysomelidae.
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The best I can come up with are a) a soldier-fly such as Norellisoma spinimanum and b) a beetle such as Carabus nemoralis.
Does that ring bells with anyone?
The fly is a Sciomyzidae - Tetanocera (incidently Norellisoma spinimanum is a dung fly not a soldier fly).

the beetle is indeed Chrysomelidae - close to Donacia but not that genus.
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Thanks very much for your help!
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the beetle is indeed Chrysomelidae - close to Donacia but not that genus.
probably Plateumaris sericea
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Thanks Ficedula, that's not in my insect books but from internet photos it looks a good match.
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