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Old Wednesday 4th May 2016, 18:25   #1
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Female Yellowhammer?

Hi there,

is this a female Yellowhammer?

Thanks a lot,
Chris

Seen in: Italy, Apulia, Gargano Nationalpark, Monte Sacro, 18.04.16
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Old Wednesday 4th May 2016, 18:29   #2
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Yes.

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Old Wednesday 4th May 2016, 18:29   #3
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Old Wednesday 4th May 2016, 22:11   #4
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How are you excluding Cirl Bunting?
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Old Wednesday 4th May 2016, 22:43   #5
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Good question. Head appears strongly marked and bill quite two toned which would suggest Cirl and although the throat does appear yellowish I think I'd go for Cirl Bunting on this photo
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Old Wednesday 4th May 2016, 23:03   #6
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Cirl for me too, not least that the location is out of range for Yellowhammer except as a scarce winter visitor.
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Old Thursday 5th May 2016, 00:29   #7
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Me too for Cirl. Doesn't have the look of a Yellowhammer, but I fail to tell why.....

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I spent ages with Collins before deciding on Yellowhammer, face pattern is better for Yellwohammer?

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Old Thursday 5th May 2016, 07:04   #9
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I'm pretty sure I can see an olive toned upper tail covert, which would make it a cirl.
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Old Thursday 5th May 2016, 12:53   #10
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Hi there, I wouldn´t be able to differentiate the both species. But I would prefere Cirl So thanks to everybody who´s involved in the discussion! Great for me as well. It´s the second time that I saw a Cirl Bunting :)

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ps. is it a female as well?
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Just realised what swayed me, the apparent yellowish edges to the primaries which is a Yellowhammer feature.


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