Gull with yellow legs Teesside UK (1 Viewer)

I was happy with this as Yellow-legged until I looked at the flight shots. P10 to P6 look great, but P5 looks all wrong with just a thin black band on the outer web only. All photos that I can find of adult Yellow-legged show a full, thick black band on P5. With this bird still getting reported as Yellow-legged I am wondering if I'm missing something. Help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Rob

this is tough, since there is hardly any really solid separation trait visible, between yellow-legged herring and the true one. i'm still swaying: legs do not look like those of adult YLG (too short, too dull coloured for an adult, even subadult at this age); it might be a 4th cycle or otherwise younger adult male herring gull with yellow legs and red orbital but it might as well be a YLG with incomplete p5 band, something which is rare but not impossible in YLG. black on the other primaries is on the restricted side for michahellis, so might be another indication that the bird is a HG indeed. all in all i don't like it jizzwise as being a YLG but i find it hard ot exclude the real one...
edit: att, an ad michahellis from swizzerland (lost the link, it's not my pic - if i find the link i'll replace it )

The mantle colour might be somewhat dark for HG, plus the black area to the Primaries might just be more favourable for michahellis (more extensive), and perhaps the more pronounced gony?

Cheers

Further images of same bird:

http://www.teesmouthbc.com/forumtbc/index.php?topic=6650.0

SteveClifton said:

Further images of same bird:

http://www.teesmouthbc.com/forumtbc/index.php?topic=6650.0

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Surely a yellow-legged Herring. Primary pattern together with the p5 mark fits Herring. The redish orbital ring is rather equally broad in front, and behind the eye, usually broadest in front of the eye in YLG.

JanJ

Thanks all for the comments. I've got it down as a Herring Gull (albeit an interesting one).

Cheers

Rob