As long as the price breaks $3,500 I'll be happy.
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2019 - New models EL (1 Viewer)
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dries1
Member
The WX is a special glass, under a dark sky, I have enjoyed the views. Per my discussions with the owner, they are 10X, and under less than perfect skies with light pollution, he will reach for a 12 or high mag. The views in the day are very nice, but to really appreciate it at its current weight, it would be on a mono pod or tripod depending on the individual.
On topic, what Gijs said in post 128.
Andy W.
On topic, what Gijs said in post 128.
Andy W.
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Gijs van Ginkel
Well-known member
Chosun, post 130,
The process I described in post 128 does not take 10 years, but that is the way the development of new products certainly in the higher price range frequently occur. Some top-companies have customer groups to identify the needs/wishes of customers (birders-hunters-travellers) for instruments that fulfill their needs. Seems a wise approach to me.
Gijs van Ginkel
The process I described in post 128 does not take 10 years, but that is the way the development of new products certainly in the higher price range frequently occur. Some top-companies have customer groups to identify the needs/wishes of customers (birders-hunters-travellers) for instruments that fulfill their needs. Seems a wise approach to me.
Gijs van Ginkel
PYRTLE
Old Berkshire Boy
Tim, please list one example of when a development / rumour from your trusted sources has proved to fruition. By the way, it is their minds not there.
Perhaps you might consider ceasing putting out consistent rumours, it does get quite tedious.
Thanks, Pat
Hermann
Well-known member
Don't forget stabilisation does not need to rely on electronics. The Zeiss 20x60S and the 20x60S Mono have a mechanical stabiliser that works very well indeed.
Don't forget a switch to a better prism system might improve the optics more than, say, some changes to the field flatteners and so on. The SP prism, now almost universally used in the majority of compact binoculars, is weaker than AK prisms and *any* porro system. In fact, of the three roof prism types used in binoculars (SP, AK and Uppendahl) the SP is the one with the greatest weaknesses.
Sure, SP prisms are pretty good nowadays, however, at the level we're talking about here any of the other types would make a (visible) difference IMHO.
My own favourite would be a binocular with Perger prisms ... :t: I'd order it unseen as long as it isn't too heavy.
Hermann
Alexis Powell
Natural history enthusiast
No no no, you've forgotten a very important category: FOCUS CONTROL. The Swarovski EL SV have decent close focus for butterflying and the like, but it is nearly unusable because it is so _terribly slow_ to adjust. If the ratio were increased, we would lose precise focus at distance, which wouldn't be good for birding. The solution is variable-ratio focus. For those of us who regularly use bins for close viewing, and especially for those of us who are constantly switching from 5 feet to infinity, variable-ratio focus would be a SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. Why do so few bins (e.g. Pentax Papilio, discontinued Brunton Epoch, discontinued Minox HG) make use of it? I think it is silly to give a bin excellent close-focus spec (as many modern bins do) and not also give it the focus control needed to make use of that capability. This is low-hanging fruit, easily achieved with existing technology.
--AP
Chosun Juan
Given to Fly
posts #133-135: I was pretty much in the same boat, it seems. For me, the major deal breaker was the roller ball problem with the Swaros.
My only gripe with the FL 8x32 is that I'm somewhat unhappy with the reddish coating as outlined in another thread https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=378122. Wish I had bought an earlier version. My original notion that it might have to do with Lotutec was definitely wrong, however.
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