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Old Thursday 3rd March 2011, 23:29   #1
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bird from rio de janeiro

And this bird in rio de janeiro brazil

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5495214049/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5495818274/

please help me out?

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Old Friday 4th March 2011, 08:36   #2
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It looks like a female Icterid of some sort (maybe a Cowbird or Blackbird) but I'm struggling a bit to work out which one.
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It looks like a female Icterid of some sort (maybe a Cowbird or Blackbird) but I'm struggling a bit to work out which one.
makes sense. just wish i'd seen the male
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My suspicion is that it's a juvenile Shiny Cowbird. See the picture of a juvenile here:
http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Shiny_Cowbird
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that sounds reasonable, even though I don't know the competition down there

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Cowbird makes sense as it was hanging around with the sparrows on its own as if it thought it was one of them! Do all Cowbird species lay eggs in other birds nests?

If not then I might be able to confirm it as shiny
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Cowbird makes sense as it was hanging around with the sparrows on its own as if it thought it was one of them! Do all Cowbird species lay eggs in other birds nests?

If not then I might be able to confirm it as shiny
As mentioned in the Opus article, this (and I think all cowbirds) are nest parasites. I can't really think of any other icterids that would look similar in that area. Others would tend to be more strongly marked on the head in particular.
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As mentioned in the Opus article, this (and I think all cowbirds) are nest parasites. I can't really think of any other icterids that would look similar in that area. Others would tend to be more strongly marked on the head in particular.
You have been a great help! Thanks
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My first thought was Chestnut capped Blackbird, based on the yellow hues...

http://www.mangoverde.com/birdsound/...c204-12-2.html

http://ibc.lynxeds.com/photo/chestnu...e-perched-reed

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hmmm i had seen a male chesnut capped bb nearby as well. It was within 20 metres as well. It could be that this one and the one hanging around with the sparrows in this photo are different birds

http://www.flickr.com/photos/6021577...n/photostream/

I think i have another photo somewhere so i will upload this as well when i get home
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To me the bird in the photos under discussion seems like an immature Shiny Cowbird. Besides the bill shape and forehead being different, in my perception, from those features in the photos of the female C-c Bb, the bird in the photos shows a fairly defined superciliary line while the C-c Bb head plumage seems to be fairly homogeneous. Also the primaries of the C-c Bb seem darker than those of the bird in the photo.
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Old Saturday 5th March 2011, 07:16   #13
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5499061752/

here is another pic to help. i have to say now i have the book in front of me im also leaning towards the shiny. especially as it was hanging out with water tyrants and sparrows as if it was one of them
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