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Can you help to identify this reed warbler... a resident breeder which i found a population all the year
African reed warbler or Eurasian reed warbler??
North of Algeria-03/01/2020
 

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The African Reed Warbler is not reputed to be present in Algeria.
Probably Eurasian Reed Warbler.
Jean

But in tunisia and morroco there are the two species african reed warbler and eurasian reed warbler ... I found some population all the year !!!!!
Also the wings look short???????
what is the different between African and Eurasian reed warbler??
 
But in tunisia and morroco there are the two species african reed warbler and eurasian reed warbler ... I found some population all the year !!!!!
Also the wings look short???????
what is the different between African and Eurasian reed warbler??
I think without the bird in hand, you can't say.
The primary projection actually seems short, it's a good point for a baeticatus.
According to experts, the taxonomic status of baeticatus versus scirpaceus is still uncertain.
Jean
 
The short primary projection and the general expression of the bird seem to indicate a bird from the local breeding population (subspecies ambiguus).

As for the taxonomy, Olsson et al. (2016) proposed four main taxonomic alternatives for the Eurasian/African reed warbler complex. The 'IOC World Bird List' adopted the second approach by splitting the complex into two species: Eurasian and African reed warbler, but included ambiguus with the latter. On the other hand, HBW adopted the most conservative approach by lumping all taxa of the complex into a single species: Acrocephalus scirpaceus.


The African Reed Warbler is not reputed to be present in Algeria.
Jean

Jean, when people talk about the African Reed Warbler in Northwest African and Iberia, they mean 'Acrocephalus baeticatus ambiguus' not the nominate taxon. In other words, they follow the taxonomy of 'IOC World Bird List' as mentioned above (eBird also treats ambiguus as a subspecies of African Reed Warbler).
 
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