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Andy Adcock
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The bird at the back looks to be YL, look how much darker the bird in question is, must be Lb-bG?
lou salomon
the birdonist
both are YLG. grey shade in gulls is extremely dependable on light angle. the grey parts in the front bird are not in direct (sun) light like the one in the back.
I'm sure this is correct, but in cases like this could you elaborate why, please? ...Will help those of us like me who have difficulty in believing in many of these large gull taxa...
Andy Adcock
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Ditto.
lou salomon
the birdonist
ok, bill structure is striking as being high, with a strong gonys and a blunt tip. head is toatally white, most LBBGs usually still streaked. and then it is the pic itself which is made in sunlight. under such conditions you can get strikingly different grey tones, even if not in full shadow. my experience from pics tells me that a (generally more slender etc) LBBG would appear much darker than the front bird here is. and concerning wing pattern: LBBG have on average more black in outer 3 primaries, here there is a large gre basal part to them.
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Andy Adcock
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Thank you.
Simon Wates
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Its a Yellow-legged. Never a doubt. Imagine, looking at your 2nd photo, that the bird in the foreground turned a few degrees into the position of the bird behind. Then the shade of grey would be identical
Check the upper mantle.
