Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
Zeiss - Always on the lookout for something special – Shop now

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Help with ID/year?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 04:14   #1
Foss
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 131
Help with ID/year?

It's billed as a 10x30 but I can't find a photo match with the full bridge.
Thank you,
Foss
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ZeissCompact.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	14.6 KB
ID:	686326  
Foss is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 04:37   #2
JerryLogan
Registered User

 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 282
Isn’t this a Zeiss Diafun?
JerryLogan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 04:37   #3
dries1
Registered User
 
dries1's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,429
Jack,

It is a Diafun, entry level Zeiss. Manufactured 1999-2002. Personally, I would run from it.

Andy W.
dries1 is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2018 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 04:47   #4
JerryLogan
Registered User

 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 282
Does it have a large Z on the bridge between the objectives?
JerryLogan is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 12:30   #5
NDhunter
Registered User
 
NDhunter's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ND
Posts: 3,959
The Diafun is a capable binocular, so if you find one at a good price, give it a try.

It is small and compact and quite bright with Zeiss T* coatings.

If you do a search back on the Zeiss subforum you should find some discussion.
I have the 8x30, with angled eyecups best used without glasses.

Jerry

Add: If you go back to Jan. 2006, Angelo who posts here had one, and liked it. He is a photographer.

Last edited by NDhunter : Sunday 3rd February 2019 at 12:39. Reason: add on
NDhunter is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 15:05   #6
Foss
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 131
Thanks all. I appreciate the information.
~ Foss
JL, that one picture is all I had.
Foss is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 15:26   #7
gunut
Registered Offender
 
gunut's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sussex Wisconsin
Posts: 455
I have a couple of them....decent enough optics...not the best design.....but I wouldn't run from them unless they were being thrown at me....
gunut is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 20:39   #8
Steve C
Registered User
 
Steve C's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Posts: 3,543
If memory serves, the Diafun was not phase coated. Don't expect a typical Zeiss level binocular. I thought they were OK, but not Zeiss OK.
__________________
Steve

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are". Teddy Roosevelt.
Steve C is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Sunday 3rd February 2019, 22:10   #9
NDhunter
Registered User
 
NDhunter's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ND
Posts: 3,959
Steve:

Good point, it has been mentioned before, what year did Zeiss have phase coating on all of
their binoculars that had SP prisms ?

I'm sure someone knows.

Jerry
NDhunter is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 4th February 2019, 00:23   #10
gunut
Registered Offender
 
gunut's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sussex Wisconsin
Posts: 455
diafuns were phase corrected....
gunut is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 4th February 2019, 00:29   #11
Steve C
Registered User
 
Steve C's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Posts: 3,543
I believe Zeiss started in 1988, on their top line binoculars. Zeiss never did come anywhere close to calling the Diafun top line, it was what seems the first attempt by a top tier manufacturer to add their name to a more affordable product. One of the ways costs were cut on the Diafun was likely to not include phase correction. I was on the verge of buying one for the sole reason it was Zeiss product in 1999. I backed out when I discovered it was not phase corrected. I knew little about binoculars then, but I had got phase correction at least on radar then. But that is as I remember, and I may well be incorrect.

EDIT: I see gunuts post as I was typing this, so I may need to stand corrected....
__________________
Steve

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are". Teddy Roosevelt.
Steve C is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Monday 4th February 2019, 02:47   #12
gunut
Registered Offender
 
gunut's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sussex Wisconsin
Posts: 455
I could swear they were phase corrected but I cant find any definite specs saying so.....
gunut is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 4th February 2019, 15:01   #13
Troubador
Moderator
 
Troubador's Avatar

 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 8,715
I have copy of an original Diafun brochure supplied by Zeiss Sports Optics UK a few years ago and it states clearly:
Diafun has phase coated prisms and has 'multi-coated' lenses (no mention of T*).

Lee
Troubador is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 4th February 2019, 16:13   #14
Steve C
Registered User
 
Steve C's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Posts: 3,543
I did some note checking. We have a large annual Birding Festival here. It started out as the bald eagle Conference and has morphed into the Winter Wings Festival. There are typically some optical displays there. The year I backed off buying a Diafun there was a Zeiss display there. The Zeiss rep there was the one who told me there was no PC on the Diafun. The new Conquest then clearly was a far superior binocular and it took no imagination to think there was something significant present in the Conquest that was missing in the Diafun. That was a long time ago and it does not mean the Zeiss man was right, or that I took proper notes .

Looking around there are places that say phase coated, some say no. None seem, on their face, to say with certainty that either is correct. Many sites just list the Diafun as simply being multi-coated. Since Zeiss was phase coating from 1988, it seems no stretch the Diafun had PC.

The Diafun was a nice, compact glass with an OK image, but nothing to stand up to any competition from the likes of the then new Zeiss Conquest, making it pretty easy to think it was not phase corrected.
__________________
Steve

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are". Teddy Roosevelt.
Steve C is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2009 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 5th February 2019, 01:08   #15
NDhunter
Registered User
 
NDhunter's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ND
Posts: 3,959
Well, it is confirmed then, the Diafun is phase coated, not that it matters much.

Think about the name, Zeiss named it fun, that means just go out an enjoy it.

These are a nice light binocular, good optics, rugged armor and made by Zeiss.
They have MC coatings, rather than T*, after I checked mine.

You can find these used for around $100. or a bit more.

I like to collect binoculars, and I can't think of anything else that compares in this price range.
Certainly nothing new, China made.

Jerry

Last edited by NDhunter : Tuesday 5th February 2019 at 01:11.
NDhunter is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 9th February 2019, 09:33   #16
John A Roberts
Registered User
 
John A Roberts's Avatar

 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Perth
Posts: 91
I managed to locate a then contemporary review of the 8x30 Diafun by Stephen Ingraham
And it's it's clear in context that they were phase coated
- see Stephen's comments regarding the phase coated Pentax verses the non-phase coated Fujinon roof prisms, and the rankings in the 'NEED' table at the end
He also discusses their place verses other then available options

John

Last edited by John A Roberts : Saturday 9th February 2019 at 09:38.
John A Roberts is online now  
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Was this year a good year? ChrisKten Garden Birds, Bird Feeding & Nestboxes 17 Tuesday 18th August 2009 16:52
41 year Old Razorbill and 31 year Old Curlew - Record Breakers rockfowl Birds & Birding 0 Saturday 12th July 2008 11:16
Good year/Bad year in the South-East paulwfromtheden Birds & Birding 11 Saturday 14th July 2007 11:31
Wasps in front garden last year, this year Bumble Bees in back garden. tuftyhill Insects, Dragonflies, Arachnids, Beetles & More 6 Wednesday 15th June 2005 14:17

{googleads}

Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.19691610 seconds with 31 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 11:15.