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Pin-tailed Snipe or Common Snipe, Al Ain, UAE, 13.12.2015. (1 Viewer)
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Bryon Wright
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Peter,
Agree with KGS, on common snipe. Those huge bold, sub-coronal stripes are better for common snipe as well. The light area encircled in dark behind the eye is more typical of PTS however? Guess some people might wonder how a fan-tail, fits in the seemingly, tiny tail area?
Agree with KGS, on common snipe. Those huge bold, sub-coronal stripes are better for common snipe as well. The light area encircled in dark behind the eye is more typical of PTS however? Guess some people might wonder how a fan-tail, fits in the seemingly, tiny tail area?
peterarras
Well-known member
Thanks a lot Bryon and M...!
By my experience over the last 4 years and more then 5 month over the winter time and almost daily sightings,
is this bird a Pin-tailed Snipe! I tried today, to get a call from her, but she flew 2 times silent away!
I can't tell you why, but when I see her between the Common Snipes, appeared she to me as a Pin-tailed Snipe!
Here are 2 pictures from today,
and 2 pictures from 22.11.2015! I thought it is the same bird, but now I'm not sure anymore! It appears always at the same place!
Cheers
Peter.
By my experience over the last 4 years and more then 5 month over the winter time and almost daily sightings,
is this bird a Pin-tailed Snipe! I tried today, to get a call from her, but she flew 2 times silent away!
I can't tell you why, but when I see her between the Common Snipes, appeared she to me as a Pin-tailed Snipe!
Here are 2 pictures from today,
and 2 pictures from 22.11.2015! I thought it is the same bird, but now I'm not sure anymore! It appears always at the same place!
Cheers
Peter.
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peterarras
Well-known member
Not sure about the first two pictures, but all the other birds show some very good features for Pin-tailed/Swinhoe's snipe and I can't imagine these birds being (pure) Common Snipes (apart from the one in the last two pictures, of course).
According to the 'Handbook of Avian Hybrids' (2006), hybrids between both have never been recorded.
Greetings,
Jonas.
According to the 'Handbook of Avian Hybrids' (2006), hybrids between both have never been recorded.
Greetings,
Jonas.
peterarras
Well-known member
Thanks a lot Jonas, that's a good information!
JANJ
Well-known member
Pintail and Swinhoe´s Snipe are almost impossible to identify on plumage. The best way is to get a good view of the outer tail feathers, Pintail with 8 pins of equal width all the way in to the base:http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages/image/108150468 and Swinhoe´s with 6 pins which widen at the base:http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages/image/144427719
Some identification tips here:
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/1/8d8db470-a207-4432-bc1f-aece7d5b1dd6.pdf
JanJ
Some identification tips here:
http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/1/8d8db470-a207-4432-bc1f-aece7d5b1dd6.pdf
JanJ
Bryon Wright
Well-known member
Peter,
post #4 picture #1. This ticks all the PTS. boxes in my view. Are the middle two photographs on post #4 of different birds?
post #4 picture #1. This ticks all the PTS. boxes in my view. Are the middle two photographs on post #4 of different birds?
peterarras
Well-known member
Thanks a lot Bryon!
The pictures in #4, 1 and 2 are the same (15.12.2015), 3 and 4 are also the same bird (22.11.2015),
I thought all pictures are the same bird, because it appear always at the same place, but when I look the pictures now, I think it's a different one!
Cheers
Peter.
The pictures in #4, 1 and 2 are the same (15.12.2015), 3 and 4 are also the same bird (22.11.2015),
I thought all pictures are the same bird, because it appear always at the same place, but when I look the pictures now, I think it's a different one!
Cheers
Peter.
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