Flycatcher for ID (Israel) (1 Viewer)

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Orvany24

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• May 14, 2018

• #1

Hello.

Couldn't get a back angle shot. Only front and flank.

I lean towards a female European Pied FC due to the (Quoting Opus) "very insignificant pale vertical mark leading from the white wing bar - in the female Collared this is noticeably broader and leads almost to the edge of the wing".

I know the dark plumage tone is also a distinct feature for this species but I personally struggle with tone distinction.

What do you say?

Thanks in advance.

 

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lou salomon

the birdonist

• May 14, 2018

• #2

you're right with female pied flycatcher.

 

KenM

Well-known member

• May 14, 2018

• #3

I'm wondering if the suggestion of a median covert bar, long white UTC's combined with the white bar from the primary coverts...might be a better fit for female Semicollared Flycatcher?

Cheers

 

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Orvany24

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• May 14, 2018

• #4

KenM said:

I'm wondering if the suggestion of a median covert bar, long white UTC's combined with the white bar from the primary coverts...might be a better fit for female Semicollared Flycatcher?

Cheers

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Is the plumage tone on head and back of this individual distinct enough to break the tie?

Quoting Opus on European Pied FC: "Adult Female: olive-brown above".

Adding another photo of nape.

 

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Orvany24

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• May 14, 2018

• #5

Nape -

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KenM

Well-known member

• May 14, 2018

• #6

Orvany24 said:

Is the plumage tone on head and back of this individual distinct enough to break the tie?

Quoting Opus on European Pied FC: "Adult Female: olive-brown above".

Adding another photo of nape.

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It does appear to have a "grey" tint to the collar/nape, another supporting feature or perhaps too close to call?

Cheers

 

Tib78

Well-known member

• May 15, 2018

• #7

Tertials pattern isn’t great for a female Semi-collared and the lack of primary patch isn’t ideal either. Beside the photo in post #5 appears to show a different bird...possibly a Spotted flycatcher.