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Farnboro John · May 30, 2020

Britseye said:
I've been puzzling over this for a little bit as I think I might have seen the odd thing like this myself and written it off as a Dark Arches. I followed Andy's suggestion of Nutmeg to Google and thought I found a decent match, only to find the title says something different?

https://www.ecosia.org/images?q=nutmeg+moth#id=_

Second row. Lefthand most picture.

Looks good to me too. In particular the little black circumflex marks on the trailing edge of the forewing look right in shape and position, which they don't on normal Nutmeg - and Large Nutmeg is a Plate 57 moth I was considering.

Still open to argument but that goes in at least in pencil. Cheers mate. (Thanks to Andy too for the contribution!)

I have corrections, too: both the recent Emeralds were actually Light Emerald, given away by the red dots at the wingtips. Oops. Lucky I looked at them again: I knew something was bothering me about them. Light Emerald of course is the unrelated one on a different plate in the guide.

John

Rubia · May 30, 2020

Just went to go out of the patio door to get the trap out ready for later and noticed a Peppered Moth on the dining room wall. Another garden tick. Must have sneaked in last night.
A beautiful moth looked at in detail through a lens.

Paul Chapman · May 31, 2020

I would say Large Nutmeg but not a moth that I know well.

All the best

Paul Chapman · May 31, 2020

Last three days:-
27th May - 65 moths & 23 species - Straw Dot, Common Wainscot, Homoesoma sinuella & Chrysoteuchia culmella new for year.
28th May - 27 moths & 11 species - Yellow-barred Brindle, Elephant Hawkmoth & Celypha striana with Vapourer by day new for year.
29th May - 59 moths & 29 species - Lychnis, Peppered Moth (dark speckly intermediate), Buff Ermine & Mottled Rustic.
30th May - by day - 4 Red-belted Clearwing to CUL lure.

Courtesy of a friend - Alabonia geoffrella, Grass Rivulet & Scrobipalpa acumintella.

Pics Red-belted Clearwing x 2, Alabonia geoffrella, Elephant Hawkmoth & (intermediate) Peppered Moth.

All the best

Paul

Paul Chapman · May 31, 2020

A few more pics - Lychnis, Common Wainscot, Grass Rivulet, Chrysoteuchia culmella & Mottled Rustic.

Andy Adcock · May 31, 2020

Cold here again last night with a stiff breeze, four moths.

Two Heart and Dart and a Bright-line Brown-eye but one was my second ever Treble-lines, the last time I had that was ten years ago.

JWN Andrewes · May 31, 2020

Ten additions to the nascent and ever growing garden moth list this morning, of the 22 species present. 38 individuals, Common Marbled Carpet the biggest contributor with 6, Peppered, Heart & Dart and Pale Tussock with three each.

A selection of the highlights attached

Peach Blossom
Buff Ermines
Pebble Hook-tip
Iron Prominent
Swallow Prominent

Farnboro John · May 31, 2020

Paul Chapman said:
I would say Large Nutmeg but not a moth that I know well.

All the best

Thank you. I'll go with that then. :t:

This morning's trap included 31 Heart and Darts out of a total of 47 moths of 15 species. Mottled Rustic was a tick (for once I got a moth that matched the book exactly, in a plastic pot that I could hold right next to the illustration) and it was the turn of Poplar Hawk-moth to loom over the other trap inhabitants.

James - ooh that Peach Blossom is nice!

John

Jabberwocky · May 31, 2020

Not quite so cold last night so a few more today. 76 moths and 23 species.
New for year were Pine Hawk-moth, Vines Rustic and Dark Arches.

Some pics from recent catches
Nematopogon metaxella
Small Magpie
Grey Carpet
Lime Hawk-moth
Pine Hawk-moth

Rubia · May 31, 2020

Last night wasn't too bad for moths.
I had 83 moths of 30 species (plus 2 micros that would need gen det to get a name on).
New for garden were Large Yellow Underwing, Green Oak Tortrix, Beautiful Hook-tip, Light Arches and Common Swift. Yellow Shell was new for the year.
6 Small Elephant and 1 Lime Hawk-moths in the big and pretty department. 21 Heart & Darts the top scorer numerically.

Rubia · Jun 1, 2020

Tonight was poor. Clear sky, bigger moon and lower temp. So little happening I stopped at 11:45. 18 moths of 12 species. Straw Dot and White-point new for garden list. H&D down to 4 only.

Farnboro John · Jun 1, 2020

55 moths of 14 species this morning: 36 of them Heart and Darts. The only other multiples were 5 Treble Lines and 2 each of Small Magpie and Poplar Hawk-moth (one of the last was very very worn indeed.)

Other than that mixture as before. No May Bugs, how did they know the month was turning?

John

Andy Adcock · Jun 1, 2020

Six moths of four species, Freyer's Pug and SH Character were new for the year.

Here's the Pug.

JWN Andrewes · Jun 1, 2020

Decided to trap out front last night, so only till about 01:00 as I didn't want to leave the trap unattended and accessible from the street. Predictably lower numbers than recently (as well as time limitation the habitat is tamer out front), with 24 of 15 species identified, and only 4 new species, but as one of those was Small Elephant Hawk-moth I was not disappointed, particularly as a regular Elephant also attended. Brown Silver-line (5) and Green Carpet (4) were the most numerous and the other additions were Satin Wave (thanks Andy, for the ID), Blood Vein & Middle-barred Minor (pic attached).

Andy Adcock · Jun 1, 2020

Never had a M-b Minor that looks like that?

JWN Andrewes · Jun 1, 2020

andyadcock said:
Never had a M-b Minor that looks like that?

It was the closest match I could find, but I'm open to alternatives! A slightly different angle attached.

Steve Lister · Jun 1, 2020

My usual catch of about 20 moths of about 12 species...…

NFY were Buff Ermine (June 11th was my previous earliest record for the garden) and Nutmeg.

Steve

Allen · Jun 1, 2020

A Light Brocade was best of single digits again last night. Will upload a shot of my trap later and seek any thoughts on why I'm getting such low numbers.

Andy Adcock · Jun 2, 2020

Allen said:
A Light Brocade was best of single digits again last night. Will upload a shot of my trap later and seek any thoughts on why I'm getting such low numbers.

How widely visible is your light, are you near any other light sources?

Very bad here too, last night, all I got was 3 Brimstone, 1 Riband Wave and a Marbled Minor agg, the nights re still pretty cool here.

Farnboro John · Jun 2, 2020

Allen said:
A Light Brocade was best of single digits again last night. Will upload a shot of my trap later and seek any thoughts on why I'm getting such low numbers.

Looking at the photo of your trap it looks to me (it may be the camera angle) as if you have the egg boxes piled almost up to the entrance slit. This may be causing/allowing a high proportion of moths to bounce or climb out.

I leave the centre of my trap clear to the bottom of the trap, giving a vertical distance of four inches (100mm) for the moths to fly back up to hit the one inch (25mm) slit and escape after they have bonged off the actinic light and dropped in. I've no means of knowing how many make it while I snore upstairs but plenty don't. If they want to get away from the light all they have to do is crawl sideways under the piled egg boxes.

Cheers

John

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