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Pallid or Montagu's harrier

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Old Sunday 23rd September 2012, 07:39   #1
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Pallid or Montagu's harrier

Dear all,

This harrier was seen yesterday over a pivot field south of Riyadh taking an unhealthy interest in a flock of yellow wagtail.

I don't know whether it is a pallid harrier or Montagu's harrier. My guide says that all dark fingers are a feature of Montagu's juveniles whereas it also says a broad pale collar with a brown neck is a feature of Pallid juveniles. It seems to have both.

Which is it, please?

Rob

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Old Sunday 23rd September 2012, 08:07   #2
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I'd say Pallid with that collar but I wouldn't be at all surprised if I was wrong!

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Old Sunday 23rd September 2012, 08:09   #3
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looks good for juv pallid harrirer.
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Old Sunday 23rd September 2012, 08:56   #4
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Pallid for me. collar and fingers
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Old Sunday 23rd September 2012, 09:00   #5
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Totally agree with juvenile Pallid
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Old Sunday 23rd September 2012, 09:39   #6
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Thanks to all.

Looks conclusively that it is a juvenile pallid harrier which is a shame in some ways because I still haven't got Montagu's on my Saudi list!

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Old Monday 24th September 2012, 09:58   #7
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Juvenile Pallid.
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