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Trinovid bn 8x32, are they still worthy?

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Old Friday 17th August 2018, 06:13   #151
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GREAT post Kevin!

But please, PLEASE don't compare a 911 to a Honda/Subaru! ` Not REALLY sure it's legal to use them in the same sentence..
You must not know much about Honda. They don't just make family cars. I imagine the new Honda/Acura NSX would give most Porsche's a run for their money.

https://nsx.acura.com/explore/nsx
https://hpd.honda.com/
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Old Friday 17th August 2018, 06:55   #152
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April 8th, post #1:
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Hi folks,
I'm looking for a good binocular for birding and butterfly watching on walks...(I'm 5ft tall and have correspondingly small hands). l'm currently looking at the Trinovid bn 8x32....

Is there anything else I should look at? I think I'm going to have to stear away from brand new, cost wise, for a better quality binocular too but I'm not too sure for the improvements that it's worth buying new.

Your thoughts on this ladies and gents would be gratefully recieved.
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Hey! Thanks for all your thoughts and experiences, good and not so good.

The BN s still seem to be worth trying if I can find a pair. Are they heavier than the HD? I'm almost obsessed with weight!

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April 19th, post #29 is the last in that discussion.
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Hello,

I just saw this thread after post elsewhere...

I'm new here and know nothing about birds! I found this forum and thread while searching the internet for information on Leica Trinovid 8x32 BN binoculars...

Cheers!
From there the thread seems to be about the latter binocular except for this post:
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For someone who is 5ft with small hands I caution you to measure your IPD or try them in person before ordering the 8x32 Trinovid. The 58mm minimum IPD on this model excludes many potential owners. They are too wide for my face and I am of otherwise average proportions.
May be this poster is aware that the original poster is still looking for a binocular as first described. If so:

The new Zeiss Victory Pocket 8x25 might suit you. It is widely praised for its optical quality and ease of use, is much lighter than any 8x32 or even 8x30, and folds down to a very small IPD. Only in very low light situations will it be not as good as the best of those. The currently stated price for it in the UK on the internet starts from GBP 549.
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April 8th, post #1:

April 10th, post #17. The original poster responds as follows and since then has been silent.


April 19th, post #29 is the last in that discussion.
Aug. 10th, post #30:

From there the thread seems to be about the latter binocular except for this post:
Aug. 13th, post #80:

May be this poster is aware that the original poster is still looking for a binocular as first described. If so:

The new Zeiss Victory Pocket 8x25 might suit you. It is widely praised for its optical quality and ease of use, is much lighter than any 8x32 or even 8x30, and folds down to a very small IPD. Only in very low light situations will it be not as good as the best of those. The currently stated price for it in the UK on the internet starts from GBP 549.

Sorry if I hijacked this thread, I didn't mean too. I had no idea how crazy ya'll are... and then I felt at home.
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Yuk, occasionally I have done that too without meaning to!
It seems that this situation is not usually regarded as too much of a problem in this forum.
We note that lately the Leica Trinovid BN 8x32 has in turn been replaced by the Porsche 911 Classic.
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You must not know much about Honda. They don't just make family cars. I imagine the new Honda/Acura NSX would give most Porsche's a run for their money.

https://nsx.acura.com/explore/nsx
https://hpd.honda.com/
I must have struck a NERVE!

I know a little about Honda's sports cars....all I WANT to know. I do know Acura is branch of Honda and they have offered a sports car called an NSX from time to time, albeit a sports car without much of a history OR pedigree which was EXACTLY my point. I knew this without google, BTW. No doubt a great car but no real history OR pedigree.

I DID use google to see exactly when/how long a 911 has been offered. Wikipedia says from 1963 to present. Over fifty years and going strong. Amazing. It's no Johnny come lately. Not many automobiles can match that which was my point.

Sorry on my part for disrupting this thread. I DO have a soft spot for 911s as it seems some do for a Honda.
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Old Friday 17th August 2018, 14:15   #157
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This is a weird thread that has definitely drifted from the quality of the binoculars to their place as a status symbol or whatnot. Anyone would probably be fine/pleased using the BNs, but to say they are a strong competitor to new options at the same price point is, in my opinion, farcical. They are distinctly less bright, exhibit more Chromatic Aberration, and have weaker color fidelity than many newer options at the same price point.

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This is a weird thread that has definitely drifted from the quality of the binoculars to their place as a status symbol or whatnot. Anyone would probably be fine/pleased using the BNs, but to say they are a strong competitor to new options at the same price point is, in my opinion, farcical. They are distinctly less bright, exhibit more Chromatic Aberration, and have weaker color fidelity than many newer options at the same price point.
If the "newer option" binoculars hang around as long and are used as long as the old "status symbol" binoculars have been, they will have proved their worth.
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If the "newer option" binoculars hang around as long and are used as long as the old "status symbol" binoculars have been, they will have proved their worth.
Vortex, Leupold, Meopta, and others that offer the newer options to which I refer are all established companies with lifetime warranties and well-regarded customer service.

Again, this is not to put down the BN series which has a wonderful history, but is meant to highlight, particularly for people just getting into optics, that new options in the mid-range bracket are often superior to the alpha options from days gone by. And note that I have owned the 7x42 BNs and compared them to some of these newer options (sold them at below market pricing to a friend who has been pleased with them), so I'm not just talking theoretically on this point.
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If the "newer option" binoculars hang around as long and are used as long as the old "status symbol" binoculars have been, they will have proved their worth.
Human ego gets in the way of sound judgement and reality sometimes.
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Vortex, Leupold, Meopta, and others that offer the newer options to which I refer are all established companies with lifetime warranties and well-regarded customer service.

Again, this is not to put down the BN series which has a wonderful history, but is meant to highlight, particularly for people just getting into optics, that new options in the mid-range bracket are often superior to the alpha options from days gone by. And note that I have owned the 7x42 BNs and compared them to some of these newer options (sold them at below market pricing to a friend who has been pleased with them), so I'm not just talking theoretically on this point.
Vortex binoculars are all made in China now and Leupold does not make any
binoculars, these are just sellers.

Meopta does make fine optics including binoculars and so does Leica.

That is where any similarity differs.

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Old Friday 17th August 2018, 16:23   #162
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I'm not really sure what point you are trying to get across. Yes, all of that may be true (although the Made In China thing is a load of garbage in my mind, almost all products are assembled from components made in China, including things that could literally kill you if they failed such as your home HVAC system), but how does it relate to what I mentioned in regards to optical performance and warranty?

For example, my girlfriend's Vortex Vipers were completely mangled due to her negligence (don't tell her I said that...) and Vortex replaced them at no cost other than shipping. Optically, they are superior to the Leica BNs. Brighter, better control of CA, and more neutral color wise.

I'm not arguing that the BNs shouldn't be looked at in a prestigious way; in fact, if you read my previous posts I almost completely disagree with that statement. I'm stating that if you want the best optical performance for your dollar, while also having a lifetime warranty on workmanship (and occasionally user-inflicted damage), outdated alpha quality binoculars will most likely not provide that.
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This thread just seems to confirm that we are all different and have different needs and likes.

Some people love bananas, I hate them after one was forced on me when I was four. It was the latest craze. Few people had seen a banana in Britain at that time.

I have never had the slightest desire to drive a Porsche and I have driven many cars.
I have also not the slightest desire to own a Ferrari.

I still don't know of any better binocular than my old Canon 18x50 IS. If there was one I would probably buy it.
For me, freedom from flare, ghosts and glare is essential for some observations, but not for others.
I don't know whether an Ultravid 8x32 or 8x42 has good baffles or not. I would have to test them to find out.
The same with Swarovski binoculars. I just don't know.

I bought the Conquest 10x42 HD because of good reviews and find it to be top notch.
Other binoculars with good reviews I have found to be very poor for my needs.

The only way to really know if any binocular is good for an individual is to test it, preferably long term.

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Vortex binoculars are all made in China now and Leupold does not make any
binoculars, these are just sellers.

Meopta does make fine optics including binoculars and so does Leica.

That is where any similarity differs.

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Most major European luxury brands in all sorts of industries source a big part of their components in China. Doesn't really matter with compturised machine tools.
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Most major European luxury brands in all sorts of industries source a big part of their components in China. Doesn't really matter with compturised machine tools.
I was talking about binocular mfrs. not about where some parts are
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Some made in China things are good, and some are made "just good enough"
to get them out the door. There is a difference, and the point I was making
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You must not know much about Honda. They don't just make family cars. I imagine the new Honda/Acura NSX would give most Porsche's a run for their money.

https://nsx.acura.com/explore/nsx
https://hpd.honda.com/
Honda's engineering will be way better than Porsches too!
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I have no opinion to offer on the subject matter of this post but I just want to say - Kevin I really liked that photo in your post! Great "portrait" of a looking-like-new classic binocular!
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I have no opinion to offer on the subject matter of this post but I just want to say - Kevin I really liked that photo in your post! Great "portrait" of a looking-like-new classic binocular!
Hey, thanks a lot Patudo!

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For those who have been curious, here is a photo of the brand new Leica Trinovid 8x32 BN kit, I purchased for the 652.00 USD/850.00 CDN price.
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Hello Yuk,

I like the holster.


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I like the holster.

Thanks! The local Leica rep put out a North America wide search for the holster. After two weeks they found the last one in the deep recesses of a warehouse, somewhere in the U.S. It arrived at my dealer today, and they gave it to me for free.
I'm very happy!!!
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Thanks! The local Leica rep put out a North America wide search for the holster. After two weeks they found the last one in the deep recesses of a warehouse, somewhere in the U.S. It arrived at my dealer today, and they gave it to me for free.
I'm very happy!!!
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Great! Use the binocular well!

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For those who have been curious, here is a photo of the brand new Leica Trinovid 8x32 BN kit, I purchased for the 652.00 USD/850.00 CDN price.
Very cool, enjoy.
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I predict you’re going to love those binoculars and kit!
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