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Old Wednesday 8th August 2007, 11:52   #1
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The attached photograph was taken by a friend of mine on another forum.

The smaller bird was being mobbed by the larger bird.

I think that the larger bird is a Common Buzzard and the smaller bird is a Red Kite.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j83/DGRW/Kites.jpg

This is the smaller bird enlarged:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j83/DGRW/rk.jpg

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Old Wednesday 8th August 2007, 12:03   #2
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i think: usually the smaller birds mob the bigger birds (buzzard is a classic "victim" of kestrels, crows etc.). the bigger one (?) seems to be a buzzard, hard to tell what the smaller one is (if it is indeed smaller) but most probably not a kite. kites are bigger, i.e. longer winged than common buzzards.
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Old Wednesday 8th August 2007, 12:08   #3
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If the birds are close together then it surely can't be a kite. In flight they would appear to be of similar size.
While birds of prey do get territorial during the breeding season I can't recall any negative buzzard-kite interactions here in the Chilterns where both are numerous.
I also can't recall ever seeing a large raptor mobbing a smaller one, except when trying to rob food.
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The Kite? could be further away than the Buzzard?........

Without meaning to be argumentative (genuinely); I've observed Buzzards, Ravens and Crows attacking Red Red Kites myself.

I also feel that whilst a Red Kite might have a marginally longer wingspan; it doesn't give anything like the same impression of bulk as a Buzzard.

PS: Do you not think that the tail is visible on the second pic?
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Old Wednesday 8th August 2007, 12:20   #5
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I'm struggling to believe that's a red kite in that photo.
Size notwithstanding it almost looks like a hobby feeding on the wing.
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Points all duly noted, the person that took the photograph assures me that the birds were "about the same size" though.

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Any other appraisals greatly appreciated of course.
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I think the photo is so vague that you really cannot say either way. To try and pull out tail shape from that blur is a a question of faith too far, I'm afraid!

You're just gonna have to leave it as a 'don't know', as it could be a crow, a kite, another buzzard, almost anything.
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