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Buzzard: New Forest, UK (1 Viewer)
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vanellus
Andrew Hodson
Looks long-winged, which favours Honey, but cannot pick up plumage detail.
Hi all,
This bird is a pale 2nd calendar year Common Buzzard. The black carpal marking being in the shape of a 'comma', paler remiges and pale upperwing lesser and median coverts contrasting with darker greater coverts and remiges are all typical of paler Common Buzzard and I don't think this combination of features could ever be shown by Honey-buzzard. In addition, it looks a relatively stocky bird, bearing in mind that any Honey-buzzard in Europe in summer is overwhelmingly likely to be an adult.
Regards,
Harry
This bird is a pale 2nd calendar year Common Buzzard. The black carpal marking being in the shape of a 'comma', paler remiges and pale upperwing lesser and median coverts contrasting with darker greater coverts and remiges are all typical of paler Common Buzzard and I don't think this combination of features could ever be shown by Honey-buzzard. In addition, it looks a relatively stocky bird, bearing in mind that any Honey-buzzard in Europe in summer is overwhelmingly likely to be an adult.
Regards,
Harry
rylirk
Well-known member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86bGvqfCOIM&feature=youtu.be
I also have this video of the bird in flight if it helps
Been a lot of debate on Hampshire Birding about this, so I would like a second opinion before I call it ideally
I also have this video of the bird in flight if it helps
Been a lot of debate on Hampshire Birding about this, so I would like a second opinion before I call it ideally
Deb Burhinus
Used to be well known! 😎
Honey in any age just wouldnt show this suite of underwing pattern - It lacks the cleaner oval shape of the carpel patch typical of Honey. The diffuse dusky trailing edge to the secondaries would age this as a 2cy which as Harry says, would make this even less likely to be HB. The video shows admittedly very high wing action but juveniles have slightly shorter wings so maybe that’s a compensation factor? What the video also shows is a fast and stiff wing beat, not the slower and deeper wing action of a Honey in active flight imo.
vanellus
Andrew Hodson
What the video also shows is a fast and stiff wing beat, not the slower and deeper wing action of a Honey in active flight imo.[/QUOTE]
The flight action tips it to Common for me. Colouration and pattern a problem, because taken from under trees into light, so overcooked. Observation of deeper beat - I reckon it's just taken off nearby.
The flight action tips it to Common for me. Colouration and pattern a problem, because taken from under trees into light, so overcooked. Observation of deeper beat - I reckon it's just taken off nearby.
