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Old Saturday 10th March 2018, 07:27   #76
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Funny I just wrote to my friend earlier this evening that Leica binos had not been talked up much in this thread.
I think they should. Zeiss (SF, HT), Swaro (SV) and Leica (NV, UVHD+) all have their special qualities and all of them need to be evaluated if you want to make an enlightened choice. But the fact that all are very good binoculars is no guarantee that all of them will fit everyones eyes and preferences.

For the 10x mag models my impression is that SF and NV works best with glasses though. But the others might work as well.

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Old Saturday 10th March 2018, 15:04   #77
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Hey guys my friend was looking at Mavens and wondering if they compare with these other Alpha Binoculars? They come in at half the price and you know people with money always want the best deal they can get. I've heard some good things about the company and that they are alpha and are lower cost because you buy direct. I think they are made in Japan, right? Are they in the same ballpark with the alphas we've been talking about? They have an interesting demo deal where you order a demo at full price but they don't charge your card at the time, and then you can either keep it at a discount or send it back and buy new or just forget the whole deal.
IMO nothing wrong with a Maven whatsoever. I've used the B1 8X42 and B2 9X45 a good bit. Nothing to complain about and both work well for me with eyeglasses. Maven also offers and excellent way to try a binocular before you buy which I like. I wouldn't say they are quite on par with some of the other mentioned binoculars but they are certainly a nice option. But best at any expense was mentioned so I believe most stuck with that.

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Funny I just wrote to my friend earlier this evening that Leica binos had not been talked up much in this thread.
For ME there are several reasons I haven't. One reason is I didn't want to confuse the issue. Several nice binoculars that are excellent have been mentioned. I THINK about twenty different binoculars have been mentioned. How does one even consider all that? Another reason is I don't have an UVHD+ 10X42 or a Trinovid HD 10X32 so I didn't want to talk about something I have no experience with. Lastly....I was considering weight. I don't know if the Noctivid 10X42 is the best 10X42 or not BUT it's pretty close! I sure use it more than my SV 10X42. BUT it weighs a little more than some of the others mentioned. If a little extra weight isn't an issue then by all means throw the Noctivid in the hat.

So here's my final non-complicated list.

Best 10X42 for eyeglass wearers:

1a. Noctivid 10X42
1b. SF 10X42
2. SV 10X42

Best 10X for a 5ft 70yo lady. None of us are getting any younger:

1. SV 10X32
2. SF 10X42(I wish it were smaller)

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Old Saturday 10th March 2018, 16:10   #78
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Yeah I'm overwhelmed. I have experience with none of these binos and only have one alpha myself which is a Swarovski that doesn't qualify.
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Old Saturday 10th March 2018, 20:52   #79
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Black Crow,

Chuck's advice in post #77 is excellent and should be enough for you and your friend to go by. He owns and uses all of the models he talks about here, they are all premium, and all are slightly different in view, handling and relative strengths. None have any particularly significant weaknesses. Have her try out those four models on Chuck's non-complicated list and choose the one she prefers most. She'll be happy for as long as she can keep on birding.

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Given their price these must be the best existing 10x binocs (at least in the compact class). Unfortunately they're outside your price range.
https://www.amazon.com/Hawke-Sport-O...rds=binoculars
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She could manage it. What's the fov?
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Old Friday 16th March 2018, 00:58   #82
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Chuck's advice in post #77 is excellent and should be enough for you and your friend to go by. He owns and uses all of the models he talks about here, they are all premium, and all are slightly different in view, handling and relative strengths. None have any particularly significant weaknesses. Have her try out those four models on Chuck's non-complicated list and choose the one she prefers most. She'll be happy for as long as she can keep on birding.

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Looks like her first order will be for the Zeiss 10X42 SF. She got a deal at Sports Optics and she is waiting for a shipment to come in. If she loves it that will be as far as it goes. If something isn't right then I don't know and she likely doesn't either know what will be next. I was so envious I had to order another binocular for myself. (Opticron 8x32). She may have better but I'll have more.
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Given their price these must be the best existing 10x binocs (at least in the compact class). Unfortunately they're outside your price range.
https://www.amazon.com/Hawke-Sport-O...rds=binoculars
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She could manage it. What's the fov?
About $26 per FOV linear foot!
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Very good choice indeed!
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I think she made the right move, hopefully they work out for her.
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Very good choice indeed!
It should be. It's my choice also.
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The Zeiss 10x42 SF is a very good choice. Good ergonomics and weight distribution and a smooth focus. Easy to handle for an older lady.
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Looks like her first order will be for the Zeiss 10X42 SF. She got a deal at Sports Optics and she is waiting for a shipment to come in.
For her first 10X...believe she'll Love It!

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We'll all be waiting to hear how she likes them.
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Change of plans guys. She bought my 8x50B Swarovski and I found this this deal here and she ordered one to see how it goes. She's got 30 days to see how they perform. https://www.tractoptics.com/products...hd-10x42-gen-1

She's bought three good pair of binos this week. Am I envious? You figure it out. However I had the fun of finding them for her.
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Actually I am. If she dies and her family cannot do it, I take over the two dogs I trained for her and I get a couple hundred grand for dog food and effort. I'd have done it anyway. Oh and I inherit her binoculars and a pair of great Bower and Wilkins tower speakers.
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Actually I am. If she dies and her family cannot do it, I take over the two dogs I trained for her and I get a couple hundred grand for dog food and effort. I'd have done it anyway. Oh and I inherit her binoculars and a pair of great Bower and Wilkins tower speakers.
A couple hundred grand will buy a LOT of dog food! Those are nice speakers.
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Yeah I helped pick those Towers out. They are one of the best speakers I've ever heard and I've heard a lot of em. She has the perfect acoustic space for them in a huge room with 20 ft + ceiling.

I love both those dogs. I owned one of them for about 4 years and rehomed him because he fell in love with her and her dog. He's a big bullmastiff/pitbull of about 120 lb. named Kilo.
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What beauties. I'd share mine but I'm not computer literate and I got this message when I tried. I have no idea how to resize them.
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Change of plans guys. She bought my 8x50B Swarovski and I found this this deal here and she ordered one to see how it goes. She's got 30 days to see how they perform. https://www.tractoptics.com/products...hd-10x42-gen-1

She's bought three good pair of binos this week. Am I envious? You figure it out. However I had the fun of finding them for her.
Hey John .... What's the word on the Toric UHD 10X42? I am also curious why she went for the outgoing UHD rather than the just introduced HT version with the Schott HT glass. I got the impression that the $100 difference would not be a deal breaker for her. Thanks.
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It came friday and she wasn't home to sign so it's going to wait until Monday for us to view it. Today we are viewing her new Nikon Monarch 8x30 and I'm getting my new Kowa Genesis 8x33. I'll be sure to let you know.

It was not a deal breaker but the reviews on the originals were very good and the new are an unknown so to get her interested in what I think will satisfy her possibly short lived interest in 10x I recommended the original. She can upgrade anytime. She's in love with the Swarovski 8x50s I just sold her and that's all she'll talk about right now.
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Well that's too bad. That would drive me crazy knowing all weekend they were sitting close by in the UPS truck ..... So close yet so far! In the meantime I look forward to hear both of your thoughts on the Nikon Monarch 7 8X30.
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I'm getting confused.

Did she or did she not order Zeiss SF?

If yes, did she get them yet?

If yes, what was her impression of them?
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