Summery: a casual birding trip in China (1 Viewer)

Lancy Cheng · Jun 20, 2018

Thanks, Tom!

Owen Krout · Jun 21, 2018

Lancy Cheng said:
Once more mis-IDed: Chinese Egret
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S45948633
I first labeled the egret I saw at Laotieshan as Little Egret. I spent 5 min on confirming the color of its feet before making the ID. I forgot to look at its bill, which was yellow. Yellow bill + yellow feet = Chinese Egret in breeding plumage. Am I right? :eek!:

Nice! Another one that has continued to elude me so far.

Lancy Cheng · Jun 28, 2018

Owen Krout said:
Nice! Another one that has continued to elude me so far.

Brief search on eBird of Chinese Egret suggested it prefers salt water more than fresh water. Not sure if it's true as data may not be sufficient to draw any conclusion. The one I saw was feeding by Bohai sea (salt water) B

Owen Krout · Jun 29, 2018

Just looked at your pic on ebird and it looks good for a Chinese to me. Yellow bill, extensive plumes, black, short legs, yellow feet. Can't judge size by the photo, so you will have to speak to that. Add in the location and I think it is good.

Dong Bei · Jun 29, 2018

Agree with Owen. Can even see the purple lores in your photo.

Owen Krout · Jun 30, 2018

I need to update my computer system. The displays have gotten much better in the last 10 years and my eyesight has gone the other way.

I tried but couldn't be sure about the lores.

Lancy Cheng · Jun 30, 2018

I uploaded two more photos. The first one shows the lore a little better (maybe). The second gave another non-Little Egret field mark: plumes.

Dong Bei · Jun 30, 2018

Chinese Egret Lore colour transition

Now you both have me searching photos about this!

I was not in Dalian each year in July so have no photos from that month.

Below are all photos of purple lores taken in April or May.

Dong Bei · Jun 30, 2018

Adults losing purples lores or already lost

All of these were taken in August or September. One has a fun gull in the background

Lancy Cheng · Jul 1, 2018

Dong Bei said:
All of these were taken in August or September. One has a fun gull in the background

It does bring a little fun o

Owen Krout · Jul 1, 2018

Tom, you inspired me to search through all my Egret photos for something I may have missed. Especially back when all long legged white birds looked the same to me. 3

No luck though. Seems I've already corrected any mistakes there.

Lancy Cheng · Jul 1, 2018

Owen Krout said:
when all long legged white birds looked the same to me.

You remind me when I came back from New Orleans in March and someone told me about a Great Egret. "I feel I had enough big white birds" was my answer

Owen Krout · Jul 2, 2018

Change it to, "small white birds" and that is about the way I feel about gulls. :t:

MKinHK · Jul 5, 2018

Wow! - Little Gull - a fun gull indeed Tom!

Very few records in East China.

Cheers
Mike

Lancy Cheng · Jul 6, 2018

I posted this bird for ID help.
https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=364125
I think it's more about clarification than identification. What's the status of Taiga/Red-breasted Flycatcher in Liaoning?
I normally stay away from flycatchers (visual identification) but they always got me in trouble 8-P

Owen Krout · Jul 6, 2018

Lancy,

Close enough to either Taiga (which I would default to) or Red-Breasted to intrigue me. I would like to see if it is red on grey or red on white. If you email me the originals, I'll see what I can do with enhancing those images. JPEG is fine, but send it full size and best quality.

I don't think it's Mugimaki as I don't see any evidence of the prominent wide white eyebrow patch.

Owen Krout · Jul 7, 2018

Well, the photos helped. I was able to draw out enough detail that I now have swung to the Mugimaki camp. However, the debate continues on the ID forum over male or female. Seems clearly female to me as it lacks any hint of the eyebrow streak behind and above the eye.

And I complain about gulls being hard to ID

Lancy Cheng · Jul 7, 2018

Owen Krout said:
Well, the photos helped. I was able to draw out enough detail that I now have swung to the Mugimaki camp. However, the debate continues on the ID forum over male or female. Seems clearly female to me as it lacks any hint of the eyebrow streak behind and above the eye.

And I complain about gulls being hard to ID

I forgot to post the link of the bird singing:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/93331440@N08/42323613985/in/dateposted-public/
Would a female bird sing?
Gulls are hard but pleasant to ID. Flycatchers are hard to ID

Owen Krout · Jul 7, 2018

Well, if nothing else, you certainly got a lively debate going in the ID Forum! :t: I say your safe in claiming Mugimaki. It even sounds good for Mugimaki. The sex and age are still being argued over there and I have decided that I already expressed my opinion and now I'm going to stay out of that one!

Lancy Cheng · Jul 7, 2018

Owen Krout said:
Well, if nothing else, you certainly got a lively debate going in the ID Forum! :t: I say your safe in claiming Mugimaki. It even sounds good for Mugimaki. The sex and age are still being argued over there and I have decided that I already expressed my opinion and now I'm going to stay out of that one!

At least I wouldn't have to worry about sex only age most of the time when I'm watching gulls

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