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Acrocephalus Warbler ID, China

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Old Monday 22nd June 2015, 13:16   #1
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Acrocephalus Warbler ID, China

My friend took two strange Warbler in Shandong province today.
1 2 same bird, a Oriental Reed Warbler? the lateral crown and supercilium are very like Manchurian Reed Warbler,may be a juv?
3-5 same bird, a Blunt-winged Warbler with very long supercilium?

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Old Monday 22nd June 2015, 14:29   #2
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I am thinking that 1 & 2 are a worn Black-bowed Reed Warbler. Like this one in Japan, also in June.

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search...ze=1&Location=

And the second bird 3-5 is a worn Manchurian Reed Warbler. BWW has a yellow gape, your bird is rather bright orange.
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Old Monday 22nd June 2015, 22:25   #3
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Hi Grahame
Thank you, two questions,
The bill of first bird seems to thick for a Black-bowed, another image.
The breeding grounds of Manchurian is vary far from my location
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Old Tuesday 23rd June 2015, 15:25   #4
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xuky,
I am thinking that 1 & 2 are a worn Black-bowed Reed Warbler. Like this one in Japan, also in June.

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search...ze=1&Location=

And the second bird 3-5 is a worn Manchurian Reed Warbler. BWW has a yellow gape, your bird is rather bright orange.


The second I think is actually a Blunt-winged, structure and general colouration. I suspect the rather harsh light is affecting the true colour/saturation Grahame, often the case in Eastern China's regular haze - http://orientalbirdimages.org/search...ze=1&Location=
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Can't help thinking the first looks like a rather small billed Oriental Reed. Thick pinkish toned bill and rather heavy blue grey legs.
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Re the second bird , clearly either Blunt-winged or Manchurian. I realise it is well out of (breeding) range but presumably not impossible. My problem is the colour of the gape which is quite clearly pinkish-orange, in BWW it is bright yellow.


http://orientalbirdimages.org/search...ze=1&Location=
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Re the second bird , clearly either Blunt-winged or Manchurian. I realise it is well out of (breeding) range but presumably not impossible. My problem is the colour of the gape which is quite clearly pinkish-orange, in BWW it is bright yellow.


http://orientalbirdimages.org/search...ze=1&Location=
Certainly not impossible Grahame, many of the distribution maps for a number of species need re-doing, not enough breeding bird records due to a lack of observers. I do think the light is a factor here though. Corrected my initial link, internet playing up for some reason but that Hebei bird could look rather orange at certain angles.
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Old Saturday 27th June 2015, 13:07   #9
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My friend went to the same place today, not sure if it was the same as the previous one.
long pp, may be a Oriental Reed Warbler with pale legs and slim bill?
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The last looks ok for ORW.

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I agree, definitely Oriental Reed Warbler.
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