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Old Wednesday 29th August 2018, 03:46   #51
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Nomenclator animalium generum et subgenerum: Im auftrage der Preussischen akademie der wissenschaften zu Berlin, Volume 5 1936.
Schoeniparus [pro Schaeniparus Al. Hume 1874] Sharpe & Murie Zool. Rec. v. 11 (1874) p. 59 1876
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...ge/85/mode/1up .
Proparus dubium Hume.
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Nomenclator animalium generum et subgenerum: Im auftrage der Preussischen akademie der wissenschaften zu Berlin, Volume 5 1936.
Schoeniparus [pro Schaeniparus Al. Hume 1874] Sharpe & Murie Zool. Rec. v. 11 (1874) p. 59 1876
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...ge/85/mode/1up .
Proparus dubium Hume.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...e/135/mode/1up .
Yes, this (Sharpe & Murie 1876 designating Proparus dubium Hume 1874) seems to be the correct type fixation. I suspect the name is currently in use based on the fixation suggested on the Richmond card, and that was also accepted in the Peters Check-list (https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/14486586 ): designation by Sharpe 1883:606 (https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/8301318 ) of Minla rufogularis Mandelli 1873; but that was 7 years later and has no standing. (And I actually don't read the OD as having included that species...
But it's admittedly not really clear.) Fortunately, switching form Minla rufogularis Mandelli to Proparus dubius Hume does not affect the applicability of the generic name under the current phylogenetic hypotheses.

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But the original spelling of this appears to be Schaeniparus, not 'Schoeniparus'. ...
As far as I can tell looking closely at Hume's Stray Feathers (1874), Hume used the same ligature (in text) in, for example, "Cyornis Tickellidæ" (on p.405). Also compare with the ligature he used (on p.329) for Drymœca (oe). It´s very similar, but not the same.

In this cut the œ (oe) is a tiny bit more rounded, and it lacks the "blob" in the top middle, seen in the slightly (somewhat) more compressed æ (ae). It´s not the best ligature version (of æ/ae) ... but still, that´s the one he used.

Does this mean we (necessarily?) ought to use Schaeniparus, instead of the widely, since long, all over, used Schoeniparus ... ?!?

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PS. I wish that Hume had used the ligature he did use in the (bold) heading of "Cyornis Tickellidæ". Far less easy to miss ... Compare the excerpts below.
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Does this mean we (necessarily?) ought to use Schaeniparus, instead of the widely, since long, all over, used Schoeniparus ... ?!?
...Depends how you read the Code and its "prevailing use" provisions...
(If you follow the recommendations of David & Dickinson 2016 [pdf], addressing similar issues in Vieillot's work, we should use it. "Schaen-" is admittedly a bad latinization of σχοιν- (rush), but bad latinization of Greek words is not supposed to be correctable in the Code... But of course this discards all considerations of prevailing use as inapplicable.)

I wouldn't say the name is in such wide use in the published literature, actually -- it has been almost universally treated as invalid for most of the last decades. E.g., searching Google Books for it in works from the last 50 years (1968 onwards) produces less than 20 hits; and these include things like the Eponym dictionary of birds, the Helm dictionary of scientific bird names, as well as works that only cite it as a synonym or in original combinations without using it as valid.
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I wouldn't say the name is in such wide use in the published literature, actually -- it has been almost universally treated as invalid for most of the last decades. E.g., searching Google Books for it in works from the last 50 years (1968 onwards) produces less than 20 hits; and these include things like the Eponym dictionary of birds, the Helm dictionary of scientific bird names, as well as works that only cite it as a synonym or in original combinations without using it as valid.
Laurent, a common Google seach gives me 3400 results for Schoeniparus, but only 27 for Schaeniparus ... a Google Book search results in 606 versus 36, Avibase uses Schoeniparus, as well as eBird/Clements (2018), and onwards, ... which I think would qualify for the phrase "widely" used.

However; luckily for me, in Sweden we follow IOC, thereby they´re placed in Alcippe, and as such I can simply leave the usage of œ/æ, without any comments what-so-ever...

This one I gladly leave in the hands of the taxonomists concerned ...

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