Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
Zeiss - Always on the lookout for something special – Shop now

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

SX40 Super Zoom

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 41 votes, 5.00 average.
Old Thursday 6th October 2011, 22:26   #1
MichelleOhio
Registered User
 
MichelleOhio's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 249
SX40 Super Zoom

I should be getting one tomorrow and just wondered if anyone had suggestions for accessories that will be useful for shooting birds?

Thanks!
MichelleOhio is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Monday 10th October 2011, 19:48   #2
Dave Hawkins
Dear diary, what a day it's been...
 
Dave Hawkins's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Norfolk UK
Posts: 264
Quote:
Originally Posted by MichelleOhio View Post
I should be getting one tomorrow ...........
Hi Michelle

Have you managed to get any bird images yet?....if so spill the beans!!!
__________________
Dave Hawkins
Dave Hawkins is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 11th October 2011, 13:58   #3
MichelleOhio
Registered User
 
MichelleOhio's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 249
Hi, Dave! Only images are birds at feeders. Mostly, I've been playing with the zoom on this thing....amazing. The moon, for example, looks great even hand held. Hoping to get out for some birds in nature this weekend.

Not sure about "spilling the beans". I'm just a weekend photographer and have no idea how to use a "real" camera. Moved up from a Kodak Z612. If I get anything good, I'll be sure to post.
MichelleOhio is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 15th October 2011, 16:00   #4
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
Michelle,
I've been playing around with the SX40HS for a week now and I'm enjoying it. I tested it on birds today, including birds in flight. I used the SCENE Mode HS speed , which gives an 8 frame burst at 10.3 fps. I have the lens programmed to switch on at full zoom ( 840 mm ). I have programmed the Teleconverter Modes ( 1.5x and 2x )programmed to the S function button. I have downsized the VIDEO Mode to 1280x720 to save memory and make processing quicker.
I have posted a short , hand-held video here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7892550...in/photostream
I hope this helps.
Neil

Hong Kong,
China
Oct 2011
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	black kite flight sx40hs 500mm IMG_1183.jpg
Views:	1657
Size:	80.9 KB
ID:	352034  Click image for larger version

Name:	tree sparrow sx40hs 840mm IMG_0833.jpg
Views:	1520
Size:	125.5 KB
ID:	352035  Click image for larger version

Name:	chinese junk sx40hs 275mm IMG_1444.jpg
Views:	703
Size:	257.9 KB
ID:	352037  Click image for larger version

Name:	star ferry sx40hs 840mm IMG_1166.jpg
Views:	533
Size:	220.4 KB
ID:	352039  Click image for larger version

Name:	kowloon ferries sx40hs 84mm IMG_1149.jpg
Views:	572
Size:	151.5 KB
ID:	352041  

Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 15th October 2011, 17:03   #5
GYRob
Registered User
 
GYRob's Avatar

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 2,740
SOME very nice shots there Neil looks like you have the hang of the new camera.
Rob.
__________________
"The LensMaster Gimbal"
http://www.lensmaster.co.uk/gimbal.htm
GYRob is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 18th October 2011, 15:27   #6
MichelleOhio
Registered User
 
MichelleOhio's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 249
Thanks, Neil! Looks great! All of your settings are way over my head at the moment, but hopefully I really learn to use this camera over the winter. I really like the automatic shots it's taking, so I know the custom settings can only get better.
MichelleOhio is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 19th October 2011, 00:47   #7
crazyfingers
Registered User
 
crazyfingers's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Massachusetts, US
Posts: 1,621
It looks like Canon has tried to work on some of the drawbacks of the SX30 which I got last May.

I wouldn't mind having the SX40. I think my wife would kill me if I upgraded so soon...
crazyfingers is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2011 2012 2013 2014 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 19th October 2011, 12:17   #8
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
I just did some comparisons with the Nikon P500. What surprised me was the difference in magnifications compared to the specs. I did the test twice.
The Nikon looks like 840 mm and the Canon 810 mm. What's going on?
Neil

Hong Kong,
China.
Oct 2011
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	test sx40hs v P500 size comp.jpg
Views:	732
Size:	66.3 KB
ID:	352562  
Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 19th October 2011, 19:27   #9
crazyfingers
Registered User
 
crazyfingers's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Massachusetts, US
Posts: 1,621
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil View Post
I just did some comparisons with the Nikon P500. What surprised me was the difference in magnifications compared to the specs. I did the test twice.
The Nikon looks like 840 mm and the Canon 810 mm. What's going on?
Neil

Hong Kong,
China.
Oct 2011
I'd guess the Canon starts out at a wider angle.

ETA. I noticed a similar things when I upgraded from the Nikon 100 to the Canon SX30. The Nikon is 26x zoom and the Canon is 35. But the Canon starts out at a wide angle and so the final amount that it can actually zoom on a bird on a limb is pretty much the same as the Nikon. I like the wider angle that the Canon provides, with less distortion than the Nikon by the way, and so it was a good trade from my point of view.

Last edited by crazyfingers : Wednesday 19th October 2011 at 19:39.
crazyfingers is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2011 2012 2013 2014 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Saturday 29th October 2011, 10:09   #10
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
I did some more testing at the local park with the tame flamingoes and not so tame night herons. The first photo was into the digital zoom range.
Neil

Hong Kong,
China.
Oct 2011
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	flamingo  sx40hs 840mm 312% IMG_3448.jpg
Views:	878
Size:	141.0 KB
ID:	354017  Click image for larger version

Name:	flamingo groom sx40hs IMG_2451.jpg
Views:	627
Size:	146.4 KB
ID:	354018  Click image for larger version

Name:	flamingo sx40hs IMG_2928.jpg
Views:	543
Size:	150.8 KB
ID:	354019  Click image for larger version

Name:	bc night heron imm  sx40hs  840mm 2xIMG_3147.jpg
Views:	700
Size:	119.4 KB
ID:	354020  Click image for larger version

Name:	bc night heron imm sx40hs 840mm IMG_2969.jpg
Views:	796
Size:	158.8 KB
ID:	354021  

Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 29th October 2011, 11:40   #11
J.D
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 66
Hi, Can any SX40hs owner tell me if you have to switch from EVF to LCD screen,or does it switch automatically when you put your eye to the view finder?
J.D is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Saturday 29th October 2011, 16:13   #12
Marys1000
Registered User

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Michigan
Posts: 88
Wondering if any agrees or disagrees with these reviewers from Amazon. Mentions of blur and soft pictures...is this something only super users would notice?

3 star
Oct 2011 Amazon
Have been playing with this camera for about1 week. It takes good pictures overall but my issues are the shutter speed and the motion blur that I am experiencing even in the action mode. I have a Panasonic fx18 right now that is 4 years old and it stops motion better than this camera. Even with image stabilization on I am having sever issues with blur especially when you start to use more of the zoom. I have issues with the shutter as there is too much time between when the button to take a picture is pressed and the actual shot. I love the video and it has great features including easy to use manual settings but I can't see paying the money for something with such annoying flaws.
Oct 15
All Features are fine in it's class, just lack GPS and Raw Format,
and the overall picture results are still a little bit soft.

This 2 star review would not be an issue for me but possibly for some
The Manual setting on the new SX40 has a new childproof governor on it. The SX30 did not. Try to set the ISO at 400 for a night shot, and then spin the dial towards a 15 second shutter speed. It stops it at 1 second and drops the ISO to 100. Then a message appears on the LCD which says, "ISO speed is limited due to slow shutter speed." I verified it with the Canon Tech Dept. They also verified that the previous Canon cameras DID allow full Manual control in setting both the ISO and shutter speed, but no more.

This has halted a large portion of the sunset and night photography I have been doing of the Monterey Bay Harbor for the past 2 years. It is condescending and insulting to adults in general and to long-term Canon users in particular to presume to say to us, "We think you don't know what you are doing, you must be an errant child, and we have put a childproof governor on the SX40 so that you cannot use those manual settings anymore." Obviously if we use a Manual setting it is precisely because we do know what we are doing! Canon needs to UPGRADE its firmware to make the SX40 at least as good as the SX30, not DOWNGRADE its features to make it worse.
Marys1000 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 8th November 2011, 10:41   #13
Sarel
Registered User

 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pretoria
Posts: 280
Maybe a stupid question........but looking at the pictures of Neil, I woult like to ask a question:
Are there pictures made with the 100-400L and SX40 and compared with each other?
Reason for the question is: I have the 100-400, but must admit that these pictures Neil made are brilliant! If I did not know, i would say they were made with some "L" lense.
I have got the 100-400L and enjoy it, but looking at these pictures I think it would be not a bad idea to sell it and get a SX40.(Photography is only a hobby for me, but i want good pictures.)
Neil, can you tell me, are these pictures of the birds(special the sparrow) made with the camera on a tri-pod?
thanks so far
Sarel is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 8th November 2011, 11:20   #14
njlarsen
Opus Editor
 
njlarsen's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Portsmouth, Dominica
Posts: 21,241
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marys1000 View Post
Oct 15
All Features are fine in it's class, just lack GPS and Raw Format,
and the overall picture results are still a little bit soft.
Snipped out most of the post but would like to comment on the lack of RAW: I think that would not matter to me, because I don't think there is any superzoom with a fast enough save action to make RAW viable anyway. I have certainly always used jpg on my Pana FZ18.

Niels
__________________
Support bird conservation in the Caribbean: BirdCaribbean

Temporarily living in Tennessee
njlarsen is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Tuesday 8th November 2011, 20:40   #15
Dave Hawkins
Dear diary, what a day it's been...
 
Dave Hawkins's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Norfolk UK
Posts: 264
Any bird images?

If anybody has any images of birds taken in the field with this camera i would love to see them
__________________
Dave Hawkins
Dave Hawkins is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 8th November 2011, 22:32   #16
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarel View Post
Maybe a stupid question........but looking at the pictures of Neil, I woult like to ask a question:
Are there pictures made with the 100-400L and SX40 and compared with each other?
Reason for the question is: I have the 100-400, but must admit that these pictures Neil made are brilliant! If I did not know, i would say they were made with some "L" lense.
I have got the 100-400L and enjoy it, but looking at these pictures I think it would be not a bad idea to sell it and get a SX40.(Photography is only a hobby for me, but i want good pictures.)
Neil, can you tell me, are these pictures of the birds(special the sparrow) made with the camera on a tri-pod?
thanks so far
I havent used the tripod with the SX40HS. The image stabilizing is so good. I've even been shooting hd video at full zoom.
Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 9th November 2011, 01:17   #17
crazyfingers
Registered User
 
crazyfingers's Avatar

 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Massachusetts, US
Posts: 1,621
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil View Post
I havent used the tripod with the SX40HS. The image stabilizing is so good. I've even been shooting hd video at full zoom.
I read somewhere that the SX40 boasts even better IS than the SX30. That's kind of amazing because the IS on the 30 is already so good.
crazyfingers is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2011 2012 2013 2014 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Old Wednesday 9th November 2011, 01:22   #18
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyfingers View Post
I read somewhere that the SX40 boasts even better IS than the SX30. That's kind of amazing because the IS on the 30 is already so good.
It's is probably due to the Digic 5 processor.
Neil
Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 9th November 2011, 06:59   #19
sbradfield
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Witney
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Hawkins View Post
If anybody has any images of birds taken in the field with this camera i would love to see them
Hi Dave

There are some I have taken, all hand held, on autofocus (still getting to grips with manual), on this thread:-

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=213790

To be fair to the camera, I am a complete beginner when it comes to photographing birds. I am very pleased with the result so far but have lots to learn.

Cheers
Simon
sbradfield is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 9th November 2011, 15:31   #20
Dave Hawkins
Dear diary, what a day it's been...
 
Dave Hawkins's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Norfolk UK
Posts: 264
Quote:
Originally Posted by sbradfield View Post
Hi Dave

There are some I have taken, all hand held, on autofocus (still getting to grips with manual), on this thread:-

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=213790

To be fair to the camera, I am a complete beginner when it comes to photographing birds. I am very pleased with the result so far but have lots to learn.

Cheers
Simon
Thanks Simon. I can't make my mind up betwwen the Panasonic FZ150 and the Canon. I have seen good results from the FZ150 on this thread and am sorely tempted.

However, out in the field the extra reach of the Canon will come in useful but can it still produce reasonable on screen results at the longer focal length?
__________________
Dave Hawkins
Dave Hawkins is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 9th November 2011, 22:23   #21
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Hawkins View Post
Thanks Simon. I can't make my mind up betwwen the Panasonic FZ150 and the Canon. I have seen good results from the FZ150 on this thread and am sorely tempted.

However, out in the field the extra reach of the Canon will come in useful but can it still produce reasonable on screen results at the longer focal length?
Dave,
You also have the 1.5x and 2x teleconverters built into the Canon to get you out into digiscoping territory with AF and full Image Stabilsation. The 8 fps burst speed is very good too.
Neil
Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 10th November 2011, 10:46   #22
Sarel
Registered User

 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pretoria
Posts: 280
Hi Neil,
another question: What do you mean with the 1,5 en 2x converter build intoe the canon? the SX40 has a 35x zoom, can you put an converter on top of it? dumb question? = sorry....
have you maybe got more bird pics made with the SX40? is it possible to post them with the exact "list" of settings?
reason is: I havent got the SX40 yet, but after seing your pictures, I am considdering it. if i get my 100-400 sold, then I need another camera, and up to now, the sx40 is nr1.
would like if you can help(though I know it does not mean I would be able to take the same pictures you do...)
Sarel is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 10th November 2011, 11:03   #23
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
I was surrounded by warblers on migration last week and the SX40hs came into it's own as I was able to photograph out the window of the hide without sticking my head out using the rotatable screen.
I used the 10fps for 8 frames burst mode for these images and Auto iso.
Neil
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	dusky warbler sx40hs IMG_0758.jpg
Views:	757
Size:	318.1 KB
ID:	355864  Click image for larger version

Name:	plain prinia sx40hs IMG_0319.jpg
Views:	1006
Size:	213.5 KB
ID:	355865  Click image for larger version

Name:	sb munia juv sx40hs IMG_0548.jpg
Views:	913
Size:	166.5 KB
ID:	355866  Click image for larger version

Name:	reed warbler sx40hs IMG_0813.jpg
Views:	5944
Size:	196.0 KB
ID:	355867  

Last edited by Neil : Thursday 10th November 2011 at 14:52.
Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 10th November 2011, 11:07   #24
Neil
Registered User

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hong Kong (ex Sydney)
Posts: 10,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarel View Post
Hi Neil,
another question: What do you mean with the 1,5 en 2x converter build intoe the canon? the SX40 has a 35x zoom, can you put an converter on top of it? dumb question? = sorry....
have you maybe got more bird pics made with the SX40? is it possible to post them with the exact "list" of settings?
reason is: I havent got the SX40 yet, but after seing your pictures, I am considdering it. if i get my 100-400 sold, then I need another camera, and up to now, the sx40 is nr1.
would like if you can help(though I know it does not mean I would be able to take the same pictures you do...)
The 1.54x and 1.95x Teleconverters are Menu selectable and give the effect of a crop , but at full resolution. There is no impact on exposure either. The quality seems to be a bit better than using the Digital Zoom.
Neil is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 10th November 2011, 12:14   #25
njlarsen
Opus Editor
 
njlarsen's Avatar

 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Portsmouth, Dominica
Posts: 21,241
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil View Post
The 1.54x and 1.95x Teleconverters are Menu selectable and give the effect of a crop , but at full resolution. There is no impact on exposure either. The quality seems to be a bit better than using the Digital Zoom.
So a similar effect to what can be done in Panasonic superzooms

Niels
__________________
Support bird conservation in the Caribbean: BirdCaribbean

Temporarily living in Tennessee
njlarsen is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
which compact super-zoom? Amarillo Panasonic 14 Thursday 10th December 2009 11:17
Canon SX1 IS Super Zoom RJM Canon 32 Monday 24th August 2009 20:55
New Super Zoom. When? Saxdude Panasonic 2 Tuesday 9th June 2009 19:08
Super Zoom-when is it available ? David Smith Olympus 8 Thursday 15th February 2007 13:53
Super Super Zoom Alan G Olympus 17 Saturday 27th January 2007 12:24

{googleads}

Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.21760106 seconds with 36 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 15:05.