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Local Terrapin NE.London?

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Old Sunday 30th June 2019, 19:17   #1
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Local Terrapin NE.London?

Don't know if there's enough on this image for an attempt at ID?

Found last week in a small Epping Forest Pond.

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Old Sunday 30th June 2019, 19:28   #2
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Red-eared I'd say Ken, a real nuisance in some places where they've been released.
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Old Sunday 30th June 2019, 19:41   #3
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Red-eared I'd say Ken, a real nuisance in some places where they've been released.
Perhaps a better name would be Terror-pin Andy.

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Old Sunday 30th June 2019, 19:54   #4
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Could be a map turtle (Graptemys) based on the "sawtooth" back.
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Terror-pin, the best name I've heard for this alíen.
And yes, seems to be one of the Graptemys kohnii/pseudogeographica complex (in "old" individuals, the saw-back gets less and less)
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I hadn't realised we had more than one, released, nuisance species in the UK.

I assume they're culled when the opportunity arises?
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I hadn't realised we had more than one, released, nuisance species in the UK.

I assume they're culled when the opportunity arises?
There are quite a few. There was a paper on them in the London Naturalist a few years back.
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They’re found everywhere in North America as well, way outside their native range in the SE US. I don’t know that the introduced populations do much harm, however.
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They’re found everywhere in North America as well, way outside their native range in the SE US. I don’t know that the introduced populations do much harm, however.
I don't know how big this species get but my mate was a park ranger where some Red-eared had been let loose and the amount of one legged ducks was incredible. The bigger ones will also take ducklings.
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Not a red-eared slider, but there is a number of Trachemys/Graptemys/whatever water turtles which are currently sold and released in place of the banned red-eater slider. If any consolation, they can eat much of small pond fauna, but cannot breed in British climate.
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Reported a couple of them to the EA conservation department back in the 1990s. Watched them predating Great Crested Grebe and Moorhen nests on part of the River Thames near Old Windsor, and then basking on the structures when depleted. Apparently red eared slider / terrapin is in the top 100 of the world's most invasive species.
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They’re found everywhere in North America as well, way outside their native range in the SE US. I don’t know that the introduced populations do much harm, however.
You probably have predators better able to deal with them than we do.

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You probably have predators better able to deal with them than we do.

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On that note, do otters prey on terrapins? If so, that'd make a great argument for otter reintroduction schemes all over Europe.
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On that note, do otters prey on terrapins? If so, that'd make a great argument for otter reintroduction schemes all over Europe.
I was thinking more of alligators, coyotes, wolves and bears, but its a point to consider!

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Please can anyone advise whether terrapins are edible?
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Please can anyone advise whether terrapins are edible?
That is probably, very dependant on how hungry you are and I think you'd have to be starving.
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