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Old Thursday 18th September 2008, 19:51   #76
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I think you're right in my confusing Jim, I don't really understand the whole "F and then some number thing"

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OK, let us try to make a little inroads:

Shutter speed is given as 1/60, 1/125, or what ever number, and means the fraction of a second that your camera is collecting information.

For the purpose of understanding, I will ask you to imagine something that is actually not true, but anyway: look at the F-number as it is was missing the 1/ part of the fraction, so you only saw the number in the denominator. A larger F number therefore means less light. F8 gives you half the light of f4. With fast moving birds, you want the maximum light and therefore the smallest number possible in F-number. Look in your manual under A (aperture priority) to see how to set the F-number, set it to the smallest possible, and leave it there when you do bird photography.

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Old Thursday 18th September 2008, 20:01   #77
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OK, let us try to make a little inroads:

Shutter speed is given as 1/60, 1/125, or what ever number, and means the fraction of a second that your camera is collecting information.

For the purpose of understanding, I will ask you to imagine something that is actually not true, but anyway: look at the F-number as it is was missing the 1/ part of the fraction, so you only saw the number in the denominator. A larger F number therefore means less light. F8 gives you half the light of f4. With fast moving birds, you want the maximum light and therefore the smallest number possible in F-number. Look in your manual under A (aperture priority) to see how to set the F-number, set it to the smallest possible, and leave it there when you do bird photography.

Hope this helps
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Thanks Niels,

I'm going out to try it at our feeders before the sun sets!

EDIT: Here I think these are better, set at F4.0 with EV +1/3, I think they are better except for the blinding bright spot in the corner! My last post on here I promise!

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Old Thursday 18th September 2008, 21:29   #78
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... Don't forget to tell the camera you are using a teleconverter, see page 89 in the manual.
I have mentioned this in thread I started about TCON-17 (http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=120057) and it was mentioned by Jim that he has not used the converter setting on the camera. I have now got a second-hand TCON-17 and have also found that I get good images without altering the setting at all (check Cormorant pics on my gallery).

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Also which setting have people found is the best for taking 'moving' bird photographs?
I have found that using the Sport - Outdoor setting can get good results (if you're quick enough to keep the bird in the viewfinder)... including managing a Swift and Barn Swallows being fed...

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I have mentioned this in thread I started about TCON-17 (http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=120057) and it was mentioned by Jim that he has not used the converter setting on the camera. I have now got a second-hand TCON-17 and have also found that I get good images without altering the setting at all (check Cormorant pics on my gallery).



I have found that using the Sport - Outdoor setting can get good results (if you're quick enough to keep the bird in the viewfinder)... including managing a Swift and Barn Swallows being fed...

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That is worth considering. What kind of Iso does the camera choose using that setting?

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Old Friday 19th September 2008, 19:55   #80
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That is worth considering. What kind of Iso does the camera choose using that setting?
The Swift settings were... ISO 100, exposure time 1/1300 sec., f/8

...and the Barn Swallow settings were... ISO 100, exposure time 1/100 sec., f/3.6.

The camera was set to Sports - Outdoor setting for both and it selected these settinngs automatically.

After reading what Jim has said about Aperture Priority for birding photography, I'll have a go using that this weekend... I've found with the evenings getter darker earlier now, I am getting blur with images due to poor light, and the flash doesn't seem to be of much use in these conditions, so hopefully this may compensate.

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When I say full zoom Emma, I mean full 8 megapixel optical zoom. I haven't used digital zoom and I wouldn't plan to. Several contributors have used the 5 and 3 megapixel 'extra' optical zooms to good effect, but I haven't tried those. I have the Pemaraal adaptor and step rings to fit both the old Olympus B300 X1.7 converter that I used in the past with an earlier digital camera, and the Nikon TC-15ED X1.5 converter that I got from Ebay. I haven't tried them in anger yet. The Nikon adaptor feels like it might be better balanced for hand held shots, It's certainly lighter. I have no experience with the Olympus T-CON 17, which is the more recent incarnation of the B300, but lots of people here use it to good effect. Don't forget to tell the camera you are using a teleconverter, see page 89 in the manual.
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I have found that using the Sport - Outdoor setting can get good results (if you're quick enough to keep the bird in the viewfinder)... including managing a Swift and Barn Swallows being fed...

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Thank you Dave and Lisa for your advice! I think it is going to be a case of trying the various settings and find which is best suited to the 'surrounds' of the photo I want to take!

I went to my local nature reserve last night and had my first proper attempts with my convertor, the light was starting to fade but I was pretty pleased with my pics and was even more impressed of the quality of the pics after I had cropped them! I have attached a before and after crop pic of a Snipe, I used P mode to take the photo! If anyone can give me a few pointers they will be most appreciated!!
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Not a bad shot at all given the light. The original is nice and sharp so the crop isn't half bad either. I would recommend brightening the original a little in your image processing software to compensate for the fading light and large areas of dark mud. I'm hoping to try my converter tomorrow if the birds oblige!
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See my separate thread for a not too serious side by side comparison of digiscoping, a Canon dSLR plus 500mm telephoto and an FZ18 plus X1.5 teleconvertor.
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I love the Lumix

I've had this camera about 5 months, and absolutely love it. It is so lightweight that I can take it on hikes and all outdoor activities--which was a prime criteria for not choosing DSLR and lenses. It performs beautifully. I mostly have it a full telephoto, with the pixels reduced to 5, which gives me a 22X telephoto. I am considering getting a teleconverter 1.7X, but for now, I am very happy with this camera. I have posted some of my favorite photos at:

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Have only had mine for a month or so, so far, I love it.

Serious types will be busting down doors for better settings and the like, it can do what you want I gather if you know photography, still stuck on Ai mode myself, but it's good. Great, actually.
Pointed it at a flower-it recognised it was a flower, switched to correct mode!!
How does that work? I pointed it at a Pomeranian, and still said flower mode, but Pomeranians are like that.

Light, holdable, crazy zoom, it's great. Previous camera was a film Pentax, circa '94, 28-80 mm lens. That was awful, in so many ways, this is , IMO, miraculous, even as a point and shoot, which it isn't really.

Same as any digital I guess, have good light, will travel.
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Have only had mine for a month or so, so far, I love it.
Exactly. I recently bought a CanonEOS1000D to take serious photos through my TeleVue-85 scope. In practice it does not get used - I take pictures of ships (I overlook a huge harbour) but by the time I get the settings sorted the ship has gone!

If the subject will stand still for 2 or 3 minutes and fits into the fixed field of view of the scope then the Canon is perfect ...

You can see my full experience with these two cameras here (ie with FZ18 and the canon)

http://www.thingysoft.com/myblog/2008_week030.asp#7
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