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Old Friday 14th December 2018, 08:24   #76
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Thanks! Odd, as it is presumably out of copyright now?
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Old Wednesday 19th December 2018, 08:02   #77
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Birds of Australia XII (1925-27), by Gregory M. Mathews, was added to the Biodiversity Heritage Library, 16th of December 2018 (here).

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Old Friday 21st December 2018, 13:13   #78
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Is Carnegie Institution of Washington publication 54 v.1 part 2 (1907) available anywhere, please? Missing from BHL's list (they only have 54 v.3).

[Anthus hodgsoni page 493]
https://archive.org/details/research...goog/page/n175

(I don't think it's out of copyright everywhere in the world, actually. It is in the US, just like anything published before 1923; it is, also, in any country applying the 'rule of the shorter term' (that includes most of the EU), because it is out of copyright in the country where it was originally published. But the main author of this volume (the US geologist Eliot Blackwelder) died in 1969, i.e., 'only' 49 year ago, thus the work should still be copyrighted in countries that do not apply the 'rule of shorter term' and have copyright extending to 50 years post mortem auctoris or more.)

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https://archive.org/details/research...goog/page/n175

(I don't think it's out of copyright everywhere in the world, actually. It is in the US, just like anything published before 1923; it is, also, in any country applying the 'rule of the shorter term' (that includes most of the EU), because it is out of copyright in the country where it was originally published. But the main author of this volume (the US geologist Eliot Blackwelder) died in 1969, i.e., 'only' 49 year ago, thus the work should still be copyrighted in countries that do not apply the 'rule of shorter term' and have copyright extending to 50 years post mortem auctoris or more.)
Excellent, thanks!
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Old Sunday 10th February 2019, 12:43   #80
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Reise um die Erde durch Nord-Asien und die beiden Oceane, in den Jahren 1828, und 183

I am wondering where to find the plates of Reise um die Erde durch Nord-Asien und die beiden Oceane, in den Jahren 1828, und 1830. I would be interesssted to se plate 16 as from description p. 2 I do not see a reference to a plate 16 as written on Avibase. I found only the referenced plate here from Jean Baptiste Audebert.
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Attached to the natural history atlas is 17 drawings including 2 of hummingbirds. Not #16 or about T. malaris. pages 70 and 72.
https://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/id/PPN329607219?tify={%22pages%22:[72],%22panX%22:0.31,%22panY%22:0.333,%22view%22:%22in fo%22,%22zoom%22:0.751} .
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Old Monday 11th February 2019, 07:37   #82
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Attached to the natural history atlas is 17 drawings including 2 of hummingbirds. Not #16 or about T. malaris. pages 70 and 72.
https://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/id/PPN329607219?tify={%22pages%22:[72],%22panX%22:0.31,%22panY%22:0.333,%22view%22:%22in fo%22,%22zoom%22:0.751} .
OK in this case I see only:
  • Amazilia versicolor
  • Stephanoxis loddigesii = Trochilus opisthocomus
  • Heliothryx auritus auriculatus
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I am wondering where to find the plates of Reise um die Erde durch Nord-Asien und die beiden Oceane, in den Jahren 1828, und 1830. I would be interesssted to se plate 16 as from description p. 2 I do not see a reference to a plate 16 as written on Avibase. I found only the referenced plate here from Jean Baptiste Audebert.
Richmond noted only "p. 2". Cory 1918 made it "p. 2-16.", which is obviously wrong. "p. 2 pl. 16." may be taken from Peters 1945...

Erroribus pro "p. 2 n. 16" ?
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Old Thursday 14th February 2019, 13:05   #84
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Gould's Birds of Australia

Re Gallinula tenebrosa: protologue typically (e.g. HBW) cited as "Birds of Australia part 22 plate 14, 1846".

But BHL gives this work 7 volumes, not subdivided into parts, and the relevant page (Vol 6 plate 73 and description) doesn't fit that numbering, and also makes a reference to "Proc. Zool. Soc., Feb 24, 1846" as the protologue.

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For the publication of Gould's The birds of Australia, see Zimmer 1926 https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/36194906. This work was published in 36 parts, most of which consisted only in plates and their associated text; the "general" matters -- 7 title pages for the 7 final volumes, the introduction, index, binding directions, etc. -- came with the last part (36). Publication started in Dec 1840 and ended in Dec 1848; four parts were published yearly, on 1 Mar, 1 Jun, 1 Sep and 1 Dec, except that the last 4 parts (33-36) were all published at once on 1 Dec 1848 (i.e., 7 parts in total, instead of the usual 4, were published in 1848). The publication sequence departed completely from the sequence adopted in the bound volumes; external information is necessary to find out the date associated to a particular plate. Waterhouse 1885 https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/12782739 gives a list of the plates with the part to which it initially belonged, and the year of publication.
Gallinula tenebrosa was indeed published in part 22, presumably as the 14th plate in this part, which is what "Birds of Australia part 22 plate 14, 1846" indicates. (Although this type of citation is certainly useful for historical and dating purposes, it is indeed potentially confusing to someone actually trying to locate the description...) Part 22 was the first part issued in 1846 according to Zimmer, thus the date is 1 Mar 1846.

Gould presented all the species he illustrated in The birds of Australia before he published the plates, usually at meetings of the Zoological Society of London, and his descriptions were published in the Proceedings of that Society. However, due to delays in the publication of some of these, in some cases the corresponding plate and text of The birds of Australia was published first, and the name then dates from them. The dates that appear in the Proceedings (such as the "Feb 24, 1846" that you cite) are the dates of the meetings -- not dates of publication. The dates of delivery (= publication) of the Proceedings between 1830 and 1859 were published by Sclater 1893 https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/35992702.
Gallinula tenebrosa also appeared in: Gould J. 1846. Descriptions of eleven new species of Australian birds. Proc. Zool. Soc. London, 14: 18-21.; p. 20; https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/12862670. According to Sclater, this dates from May 1846.

March being before May, the book has precedence in this case.

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Gould J. [1840-]1848. The birds of Australia. In seven volumes. Vol. VI. Published by the author, London. Plate 73 and text (published in part 22, 1 Mar 1846). https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/48400878

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Thanks! Shame that bhl don't give the part numbers, or (better) have a 2nd copy numbered only with the original parts & page numbers.
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Bulletin of the British Ornithologists' Club - is Volume III (1893) available in full anywhere? BHL's copy (scroll down past Vols I & II) is very incomplete, just ten pages with the club rules, index of names and a table of contents, without any articles.
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Bulletin of the British Ornithologists' Club - is Volume III (1893) available in full anywhere? BHL's copy (scroll down past Vols I & II) is very incomplete, just ten pages with the club rules, index of names and a table of contents, without any articles.
It's messy, but I'm not sure anything is really missing. The articles for Vol. III are in issues XI to XIX. These are actually well ahead of the "Volume III" cover page in the volume.
Google has copies, e.g. https://books.google.com/books?id=3klRAAAAYAAJ but, as usual for stuff from this range of dates, US-only.
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Excellent, thanks! Found what I was looking for after a bit of searching in "Vol II" (Stercorarius maccormicki)
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Acta Zoologica Lilloana 15: 8 (1958) [Olrog's Gull Larus atlanticus] - not in BHL, nor on the publisher's website (only has pre-1946 and post-2008). Is it available anywhere, please?


Very surprised that such a distinct gull species was only described in 1958!
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Best I can do: https://books.google.com/books?id=dM...rus+atlanticus
Not a journal included in a database, not on the publisher's website, not out of copyright -- I doubt you find a better source.

EDIT -- Not the original, but the description is quoted on pp. 29-30 in: https://www.mnhn.gub.uy/innovaportal...6/1/cz92-3.pdf

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Old Tuesday 26th March 2019, 08:13   #93
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Notes critiques sur des Trochilidés

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Jacques Berlioz: Notes critiques sur des Trochilidés. In: L'Oiseau et la Revue Francaise d'Ornithologie (= 2). Vol. 8, 1938, S. 3–19.

...is digitalized? I remember once Laurent mentioned this magazine online at MNHN. But I can't find that anymore.
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It was on Gallica, not MNHN: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb343489507/date.r=
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OK. Than it was the predecessor of L'Oiseau et la Revue francaise d'ornithologie availble at MNHN. Thank you.
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Martin, the "predecessor"; Revue d'histoire naturelle appliquée. Deuxième partie. l'Oiseau, vol 1-4 (1820-1823) is accessible at BHL (here): "Succeeded by: [L'] Oiseau, et la revue française d'ornithologie" ...

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There were two predecessors -- the "other one", Revue Française d'Ornithologie, is indeed in part (vol. 9-12) available from the MNHN library website. Volumes 1-7 are on BHL as well. Vol. 8, I know only in snippet view in Google.
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I know the history here (and now I remember it was Alauda and MNHN you wrote about).
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Where can I find Schlegels Procellaria smithi. Here

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Procellaria Smithi, Schlegel, Monog. Proc. Mus. Pays Bas, 1863, p. 22
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Procellaria smithi Schlegel, 1863: Mus. Hist. Nat. Pays-Bas, Procellariae 4: 22
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