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Old Friday 3rd July 2020, 20:35   #101
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I saw this dragonfly today in Harrogate, North Yorkshire. But I do not know what it is.
I think it's a southern hawker but better wait for the experts.
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Old Saturday 4th July 2020, 04:10   #102
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I think it's a southern hawker but better wait for the experts.
It is, but this photo was already identified in another thread- no idea why it was put out in 2 different threads?
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Old Saturday 4th July 2020, 15:32   #103
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Brown hawker at Otmoor RSPB yesterday, along with a very fresh-looking ruddy darter.
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Old Saturday 4th July 2020, 16:15   #104
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another ruddy darter near my home in Surrey. Unusually, I seem to be seeing more ruddy than common darters so far this year.
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News on the BDS sightings page - the ditch in Canvey Island which had a Southern Emerald damsel sighting a couple of years ago had a report of 7 immatures on 3 July. They were reported to be low down in a hedge near the ditch, which fits with reports from other sites of what sort of habitat they like to hang out between emerging and breeding. The key thing about this site is there's access on a public right of way, in contrast to this species' annoying habit of breeding on inaccessible private land. The site is also reported to be crawling with Southern Migrant Hawker and Scarce Emerald.

If interested, have a look at this thread from 2018 about Canvey Island and you'll find all the details.
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Old Wednesday 15th July 2020, 00:21   #106
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Just perusing the Latest Sightings on the British Dragonfly Society page when I noticed a claim of a female Yellow-winged Darter rescued from blanketweed in a water filled planter in Redbridge, London.

I've noticed in the last couple of years some clearly inaccurate reports & wonder if anybody knows anything about this record?

I'm rather sceptical!
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Old Wednesday 15th July 2020, 07:35   #107
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Just perusing the Latest Sightings on the British Dragonfly Society page when I noticed a claim of a female Yellow-winged Darter rescued from blanketweed in a water filled planter in Redbridge, London.

I've noticed in the last couple of years some clearly inaccurate reports & wonder if anybody knows anything about this record?

I'm rather sceptical!
Through the iRecord verification I received a Southampton record of Vagrant Darter on 13th July - with pictures of a teneral female Common Darter - which I was able to re-determine.

On the BDS website there was a record of Golden-ringed Dragonfly in an Oxfordshire garden on 3rd May - there was a link to a Flickr pic of a Common Clubtail which is not a bad garden tick! However, the GR record was mentioned in the "British Wildlife" dragonfly round-up.

I'm pretty sure the BDS doesn't have the resources to check through the sightings that get put on the latest sightings on their website - best viewed as a vehicle to encourage interaction and interest in dragonflies but not a scientific record :-)
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Old Wednesday 15th July 2020, 11:57   #108
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Just perusing the Latest Sightings on the British Dragonfly Society page when I noticed a claim of a female Yellow-winged Darter rescued from blanketweed in a water filled planter in Redbridge, London.

I've noticed in the last couple of years some clearly inaccurate reports & wonder if anybody knows anything about this record?

I'm rather sceptical!
I wondered what that was really. Brown Hawker? Teneral Darter spp?
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I wondered what that was really. Brown Hawker? Teneral Darter spp?
Every photo I've seen on the internet of a yellow-winged darter in the UK over the last few years has been one of the other darter species, usually common but occasionally red-veined. Which doesn't constitute proof, of course, but a fresh common darter would have to be the most likely.
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I wondered what that was really. Brown Hawker? Teneral Darter spp?
I find people are about as good at pattern matching dragonflies as I am at matching diptera - almost 100% failure rate :-)

I saw the attached message on the local birding system - the observer didn't have the background knowledge that Willow Emeralds don't fly until July nor that it would be a first for VC11. I didn't bother to pursue it but I thought that female Banded Demoiselle would have been the most likely. (Not knocking the observer)
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I'm pretty sure the BDS doesn't have the resources to check through the sightings that get put on the latest sightings on their website - best viewed as a vehicle to encourage interaction and interest in dragonflies but not a scientific record :-)
Yes, I'm sure this has always been the case, but especially in recent years the function of the page seems to have changed somewhat.

My guess is that the dragonfly might have been an immature Ruddy Darter - people can be surprised by how much yellow there is in the wings of certain individuals. I've nearly made the mistake myself in my younger days
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I find people are about as good at pattern matching dragonflies as I am at matching diptera - almost 100% failure rate :-)

I saw the attached message on the local birding system - the observer didn't have the background knowledge that Willow Emeralds don't fly until July nor that it would be a first for VC11. I didn't bother to pursue it but I thought that female Banded Demoiselle would have been the most likely. (Not knocking the observer)
I was about to say that a lot of things had been early this year, but then I checked back and saw the date was in May. Not that early

Fairly amazed no record of Willow Em in VC11. We’ve had them in Beds for several years - thought they’d got all over by now, though I suppose they do have a more eastern distribution and Beds is (a bit) east compared to Hants. Edit: and of course they started out from Suffolk, and Beds is a lot nearer Suffolk.

The thing I find most frustrating about the new(ish) BDS reports format is not so much the ‘in my garden’ records, because it’s good to see people getting interested and involved, but that when you reload the site, though the records are in date order, often within date they seem to come up in completely random order, which means you need to check through a few records to see if there’s anything new, and if you find one new record you have to keep looking to make sure there are no more. Their database needs a timestamp for date and time posted as well as a date-of-record date, and then for records to be displayed in date-of-record followed by time-posted so that once you start seeing stuff you’ve seen before you only need to look for the next date-of-record.

Hope that’s clear, it probably isn’t

In any event, it’s still a useful site for checking what’s flying and where.

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Fairly amazed no record of Willow Em in VC11. We’ve had them in Beds for several years - thought they’d got all over by now, though I suppose they do have a more eastern distribution and Beds is (a bit) east compared to Hants. Edit: and of course they started out from Suffolk, and Beds is a lot nearer Suffolk.
Willow Emerald was found in North Hampshire (Bramshill) last October and has got as far west as Knepp in West Sussex this year so VC11 will be any week now!

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The thing I find most frustrating about the new(ish) BDS reports format is not so much the ‘in my garden’ records, because it’s good to see people getting interested and involved, but that when you reload the site, though the records are in date order, often within date they seem to come up in completely random order, which means you need to check through a few records to see if there’s anything new, and if you find one new record you have to keep looking to make sure there are no more. Their database needs a timestamp for date and time posted as well as a date-of-record date, and then for records to be displayed in date-of-record followed by time-posted so that once you start seeing stuff you’ve seen before you only need to look for the next date-of-record.

Hope that’s clear, it probably isn’t

In any event, it’s still a useful site for checking what’s flying and where.
Yes - the ability for the end-user to decide if they want to see by date added or be date recorded would be good.

I tend to use iRecord now to see what's flying - once you have an account (free) it's pretty straightforward to set up queries ("Filters") to see what's flying, limited by area if needed.
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Willow Emerald is already on the wing in Beds. I photographed one on the 11th at Duck End N.R (Dave knows where that is). This is nearly a month earlier than the first one I saw last year. It's been cloudy and cool since then so I haven't had a chance to check other local sites where I know it occurs.
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This is for anybody thinking of visiting the Southern Emerald Damselfly site near Beaconsfield, Bucks - don't bother. Apparently the pond liner was removed last year and now the pond is virtually sterile.
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Two separate Lesser Emperors in the New Forest today. One at Hatchet Pond (south end) and one west of Holm hill.
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