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To Charles of Zen-Ray (2 Viewers)
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Hi, Brock,
Yes, all the refinements on the 7x36 ED2 are applied to 9x36 ED2 too, including the glare fix and new baffles.
Thanks
Charles
brocknroller
porromaniac
I figured they would be but since they weren't mentioned in the list of features, I wanted to confirm that. Thanks!
Brock
Martin Fagg
Guest
Hi Tero,
I think 7* fov at 9x mag will be excellent. I have had 8* 8x bins and they are too tunnel vision for me but, as you say, the afov of these should be good.
I used to have Opticron Elite 9x35 porros about 25 years ago. I don't know what the fov was but they certainly weren't tunnel-like. I tihnk 9x35/36 is a very interesting configuration. It's good to see it available again.
What's BF members' take on this one? I mean, between 28mm and 32mm, which one do you prefer? |=)|
A good quality 7 x 28 CF roof prism. Not necessarily an alpha. Just good. About a 7 degree FOV.
There are some IF Military ones out there but no one makes a CF AFAIK. Pentax has a 1/2 decent 9 x 28. It weighs about 14 ounces, but at 9x it is not as useful an all purpose small birding or travel binocular as a 7x would be. It needs a wider FOV.
Bob
There are some IF Military ones out there but no one makes a CF AFAIK. Pentax has a 1/2 decent 9 x 28. It weighs about 14 ounces, but at 9x it is not as useful an all purpose small birding or travel binocular as a 7x would be. It needs a wider FOV.
Bob
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Tero
Retired
I would prefer 32mm if you can make the outside dimensions small. Vortex has tried to make some 28mm models. Only the Viper seems a success, but even it has a small fov. Look at the Bushnell 8x28, it has some promise as a starting point.
I like 28mm over 25mm, mostly as I cannot stand double hinged pocket binos.
I agree with Tero on double hinges. Make sure it is a single hinge whatever the objective diameter.
Bob
Bob/Tero, although we don't have any double hinge models, it seems to make sense to have double hinge for small objective binoculars (<25mm), for the sake of compactness. What's the issue with double hinge?
Martin Fagg
Guest
I'd be interested in a 7x28/30/32 small bin for when I'm travelling light. 7* fov or above as the guys are discussing above. I also don't like double hinges. They feel too small and fiddly to get comfortable in the hands. With good e/r for glasses too.
Reverse porros are good I think. I like Opticron Taiga 8x25s so a 7x28+ of the same optical quality and waterproof would be great.
Reverse porros are good I think. I like Opticron Taiga 8x25s so a 7x28+ of the same optical quality and waterproof would be great.
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My problem is that when I use them it takes longer to find my correct IPD. That's mainly why I prefer my 8 x 20 Conquest over my 8 x 20 Trinovid.
Bob
FrankD
Well-known member
Ditto on the double hinge issue. I prefer single hinge...either Zeiss copact style or something along of the lines of the reverse porro style. Maybe my bias stems from bad experiences with cheap, double hinged roof compacts. I honestly don't know but I do know that I prefer the single hinge more often than not.
I thought the 8x20 Conquest and the 8x20 Trinovid have double hinges????
That's one reason I like the 8x20 Victory. Besides it being BRILLIANT.
lilcrazy2
Well-known member
Having had a double hinge 9x25 Legend for 9 years, I really prefer single hinge. The only advantages to a double is that they store smaller and accomodate smaller IPD's. They are much harder to bring to focus from the collapsed position, the hinge tension is never the same for both hinges, so they look like the Millenium Falcon on a shallow turn unless you fiddle with them. Also I would suspect collimination could be a greater issue with two moveable attachment points as opposed to one.
If you could put the ZRD HD quality and price into the following package sizes, I would buy one of each.
8x32 - same as Minox BDBR
7x28 or 8x28 - same as Vortex Fury
Tom
If you could put the ZRD HD quality and price into the following package sizes, I would buy one of each.
8x32 - same as Minox BDBR
7x28 or 8x28 - same as Vortex Fury
Tom
I don't like (and don't understand) the double hinge at all. Try to avoid it at all cost.
