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"diagnosis not seen" for genus names in the Key A through S

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Old Thursday 4th January 2018, 18:08   #1
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"diagnosis not seen" for genus names in the Key A through S

Mr. Jobling says there are a few genus names from A through part of T in the Key he has still not seen the diagnosis. One mentioned was Philipinetta, the dignosis was available from a review of the original work. Bjorn rightly stated I had hijacked the Joko Windoo thread.
Here is another in its own thread:
In the Key it says “diagnosis not seen” for:
Sakesphorus (m.) Chubb 1918 Ann.Mag.Nat.Hist.(9) 2 p.123 from Zoonomen, 2 here means numbers 7-12. The diagnosis is not much.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...e/137/mode/1up .
Sakesphorus, nom. nov. pro Hypolophus Cab. And Hein. 1859 (nec Meuller & Henle) 1837 Type Lanius Canadensis Linneas 1766.
Mus. Hein: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...ge/24/mode/1up .
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In the Key it says diagnosis not seen for Oroanassa (J. Peters 1930, Proc. Boston Soc. Nat. Hist., 39 (7), 276).
Subgenus Oroanassa subgen. nov.
Diagnosis—Nuptual crest as in Calherodius; bill as in Nycticorax but much more slender; scapular plumes but slightly elongated, not lanceolate blab la bla the rest is unseeable on Google Books. https://books.google.com/books?id=RH...me&q=Oroanassa .
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Old Thursday 4th January 2018, 19:05   #3
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Mark, Many thanks for Oroanassa. In fact, I have seen Sakesphorus - it is Sakesphoroides that I have not (but keep them coming!)
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Sorry for the mistake. Here is the limited Google Book of Spelectoides.
https://books.google.com/books?id=U1...q=Spelectoides .
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A New System of Nomenclature, illustrated by a List of British Birds, by Rev. Francis Orpen Morris, in Wood's The Naturalist, vol 2, pp.122-127. (here) ... includes the "Diagnosis not yet seen" for the syn. of Corydalis.

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PS. And Boetticher's Hylopsar is found here.
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In the Key it says diagnosis not seen for Oroanassa (J. Peters 1930, Proc. Boston Soc. Nat. Hist., 39 (7), 276).
Subgenus Oroanassa subgen. nov.
Diagnosis—Nuptual crest as in Calherodius; bill as in Nycticorax but much more slender; scapular plumes but slightly elongated, not lanceolate blab la bla the rest is unseeable on Google Books. https://books.google.com/books?id=RH...me&q=Oroanassa .
Often you can find more than what can be readily seen, by searching the entire Google Books, using the last visible words between quotes (enough words to make it unlikely that the exact same sequence of words would be used in many other places). Thus -

https://books.google.com/books?id=RH...AJ&q=Oroanassa :
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Subgenus Oroanassa subgen. nov.
Diagnosis—Nuptual crest as in Calherodius; bill as in Nycticorax but much more slender; scapular plumes but slightly elongate, not lanceolate
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bk...ot+lanceolate" :
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slightly elongate, not lanceolate, falling short of the base of the tail.
Type. — Nycticorax magnificus Ogilvie-Grant. Calherodius magnificus Ogilvie-Grant. Nycticorax magnificus Ogilvie-Grant 1899, Ibis, p. 586 (Five finger Mountain, Hainan).
Description. — Top of head, crest, sides of head and malar region dull black; a white postocular streak; feathers on sides of head extensively white
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bk...nsively+white" :
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sides of head extensively white basally, sides and back of neck tawny buff; interscapulars, back, rump and upper tail-coverts dull blackish brown, palest on [...]
(This seems to be the end of the page.)
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Sakesphoroides
I'm looking for its diagnosis, do you know where I can see it, please ?
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I doubt the diagnosis for Sakesphoroides is digitized, this far, it´s a fairly recent book:

Grantsau, R. 2010. Guia completo para identificação das aves do Brasil, vol. 2, p.651.

But it ought to be in someone's bookshelf.

Anyone?
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Thanks Bjorn "A New System of Nomenclature, illustrated by a List of British Birds, by Rev. Francis Orpen Morris, in Wood's The Naturalist, vol 2, pp.122-127" Also on page 125 is Seisura which Mr. Jobling had also not seen.
Very good technique Laurent!
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Using Laurent's technique I found Boettinger subgenus Pseudogallirex.
https://books.google.com/books?id=U1...&q=Mearns+1915 .
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Using Laurent's technique I found [...] subgenus Pseudogallirex. ...
Good luck Mark, in dealing (step by step) with the same volume of Senckenbergiana ...

More than Pseudogallirex and Spelectoides ... the same volume is also supposed to include:
Menelikornis
Neumannornis
Proturacopsis
Pseudopoëtus

All "unseen"!

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PS. Also good luck with Boetticher's "unseen" Pacificolarus (in Jenaische Zeitschrift für Naturwissenschaft, 1935), here
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Niobella BOETTICHER (& WOLTERS) 1939 = here
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PS. Also good luck with Boetticher's "unseen" Pacificolarus (in Jenaische Zeitschrift für Naturwissenschaft, 1935), here
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Note: the Type is not the seemingly obvious Pacific Gull Larus pacificus LATHAM 1801, but; Black-tailed Gull Larus crassirostris VIEILLOT 1818
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Well done Mark, as today's HBW Alive Key is updated on Menelikornis, Neumannornis and Pseudopoetus!

But what about Proturacopsis?

Didn´t "Laurent's technique" work on that one?
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But what about Proturacopsis?
See here:

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8. Subgenus: Proturacopsis subgen. nov.
19. Species: Touraco (Proturacopsis) fischeri (REICHENOW 1878)
20. Species: Touraco (Proturacopsis) erythrolophus (VIEILLOT 1819)
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And on p. 3 is written:

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6. Proturacopsis n. subgen.
Genotyp: Corythaix fischeri REICHENOW, Orn. Centrbl. 1878, S. 88 (Witu, Küste der Kenya-Kolonie). Diagnose: Die Haube hat die Gestalt einer niedrigen helmartigen Federkrone, die hinten mehr oder minder deutlich flach und breit abgeschnitten ist und in die breit angesetzte Nackenbefiederung übergeht. Die Haubenfedern sind kurz und erreichen niedergelegt nicht den Nacken. In der Färbung Proturacus bannermani Bates ähnlich, dessen Gattungswert anzuerkennen ist (entgegen J. L. Peters, Checklist of the birds of the world", vol. 4). Umfang: Touraco (Proturacopsis) fischeri (REICHENOW) und Touraco (Proturacopsis) erythrolophus (VIEILLOT).

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Stepaniania Diagnosis not yet seen (Kashin 1982, Ornitologiya, 17, 184).
Three papers describe this name as novum nomen for Pyrgilauda Verraux 1871.
So the diagnosis for genus Stepaniania is that of Pyrgilauda:
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...e/342/mode/1up .
Papers:https://biotaxa.org/Zootaxa/article/...taxa.3795.1.11 .
http://orientalbirdclub.org/wp-conte...nowfinches.pdf .
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ring_1978-1982 .
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Pyrgilauda and Stepaniania - the same diagnosis??!!.
If only it were so simple! The diagnosis for Pyrgilauda is that of Verreaux 1871; the replacement by Kashin 1982 with Stepaniania is a separate paper and, doubtless, a much simpler but separate diagnosis (giving only reasons for the replacement) (like many replacement names in the past (see for example those by Heine & Reichenow 1890, Nomenclator Mus. Hein. Ornith. - see, e.g., Tolmerus and Tolmolestes in the Key)).

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Sorry Mr. Jobling I like simple but not simple but wrong.
Donkorella
Diagnosis not yet seen (Boetticher 1944, Zoologischer Anzeiger, 145, 26).
Still not seen but:
Two small kinds of parrot inhabit the fig and tamarind trees of the lower country: their name,Donkoro, is also used figuratively of persons talking nonsense. One corresponds almost with Psittacus Taranta. In the other, which is a little larger, the sexes are distinguished by the gap plumage of the male, which is green above and red below, while the female is grayish-brown and yellow.
From Sir William Cornwallis Harris . The Highlands of Aethiopia 1844
As we have seen elsewhere in this book, Boetticher was thinking of re- subdividing A. roseicollis. He wanted to do the same with A. taranta in 1946. He spoke of an entirely new species which he wanted to name "Donkorella," after "donkoro," which was the name used by the natives. However, Boetticher's idea did not materialize, and this species was given the name taranta, after the "Taranta Pass" in Ethiopia, which is well known for its scenic beauty.
From: Encyclopedia of lovebirds and other dwarf parrots
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In 1836 Selby put Ps. Swinderianus Kuhl in a new genus Agapornis.
Page 117-118 of https://books.google.com/books?id=Uv...gbs_navlinks_s .
Bonaparte put a few more birds including taratnta Stanley in Salt.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...e/164/mode/1up .
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...e/652/mode/1up .
So von Boetticher recognized there was a small and a large Donkoro and he figured the small one needed a new genus which he called Donkoro from the native language plus ella for diminutive, thus the smaller Donkoro.
No diagnosis but perhaps an explanation.
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Another failure Ridgwayornis. Gr. ορνις ornis, ορνιθος ornithos bird. Diagnosis not yet seen (A. Bertoni 1926, Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay, 2 (1) (1925), 69).
"Long out of print and difficult to find even in Paraguay the Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay was the principal vehicle for scientific publication in the country during the early 20th Century. It published articles, notes and commentaries on the various sciences, with the emphasis on life sciences All articles were published in Spanish." A website has a few articles including one by Bertoni.
http://www.faunaparaguay.com/revsoccien.html . Showing his middle name as de Winkelreid.
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Donkorella
Diagnosis not yet seen (Boetticher 1944, Zoologischer Anzeiger, 145, 26).
Maybe here a hint?

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Agapornis taranta, differs so much in its coloring and bill shape that it is removed to DONKORELLA.[long dash].
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Another failure Ridgwayornis. Gr. ορνις ornis, ορνιθος ornithos bird. Diagnosis not yet seen (A. Bertoni 1926, Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay, 2 (1) (1925), 69).
"Long out of print and difficult to find even in Paraguay the Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay was the principal vehicle for scientific publication in the country during the early 20th Century. It published articles, notes and commentaries on the various sciences, with the emphasis on life sciences All articles were published in Spanish." A website has a few articles including one by Bertoni.
http://www.faunaparaguay.com/revsoccien.html . Showing his middle name as de Winkelreid.
The Paper including Ridgwayornis is most likely ...

Bertoni, A. de W. [Arnaldo de Winkelried Bertoni]. 1925. Aves Paraguayas poco conocidas. Revista de la Sociedad Científica del Paraguay 2(1): 68-70.

A paper hard to find, but ... apparently found on Facebook!

If of any help?

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I don't subscribe to TwitFace either, so Sr. Bertoni 1925 will have to wait until I visit Tring.
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The paper is not available there. Facebook creates automatic pages based in interests cited by someone or found in third-party lists (such as bibliographies).

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• Subgenus Amirafra "Bianchi 1907" (1906?) "Diagnosis not yet seen" is to be seen in Izviestiia Imperatorskoi akademii nauk (a k a Bulletin de l'Académie impériale des sciences de St.-Pétersbourg) = here

Same paper also includes "Otocorydopsis gen. nov." (p.29).

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