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Old Friday 19th May 2017, 20:07   #1
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Changes in locations in Panama

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it is roughly 10 years since we last visited Panama, but tickets are bought and we will be there at the end of the year. I have the now oldish where to watch book for the country (brand new back then) and am curious which changes there have been in the meantime. Any major sites that are no longer worth it, etc?

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OK, a couple of more specific questions, hoping that will give more response:

1) Los Quetzales Lodge in Guadeloupe, Chiriqui -- it looks like they now have cabins with electricity and wifi, and that they still have a restaurant at the hotel part. Specific questions are these: do they still have good birds around, and would it still be necessary to have a strong 4wd to get up to the cabins? and more generally for the area out west, need for strong 4wd?

2) also out west, the area mentioned as Puerto Armuelles and surroundings: this is described as an area that is not that easy to bird, rough tracks and distance between sites, and a petrochemical area in the way for some of it. Is this area worth it today, and how is the access?

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Still hoping for a knowledgeable person:

Timberline wren seems pretty much limited to upper reaches of Volcan Baru: anyone have any detailed info? Is there any guide doing that mountain?

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OK, a couple of more specific questions, hoping that will give more response:

1) Los Quetzales Lodge in Guadeloupe, Chiriqui -- it looks like they now have cabins with electricity and wifi, and that they still have a restaurant at the hotel part. Specific questions are these: do they still have good birds around, and would it still be necessary to have a strong 4wd to get up to the cabins? and more generally for the area out west, need for strong 4wd?

2) also out west, the area mentioned as Puerto Armuelles and surroundings: this is described as an area that is not that easy to bird, rough tracks and distance between sites, and a petrochemical area in the way for some of it. Is this area worth it today, and how is the access?

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I was there about 3 years ago - I seem to recall we only really needed the 4WD at the very end of the track, but not sure we would have got there without it. The trip up Cerro Santiago for YG Finch was on paved roads (unmade track goes off this which is 4WD but you can walk from the start). We found 4WD useful but perhaps not critical in the west but only did these two sites.

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Timberline wren seems pretty much limited to upper reaches of Volcan Baru: anyone have any detailed info? Is there any guide doing that mountain?

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We didn't look - it is very easy in Costa Rica

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Thanks Alan,
so for clarity: your post No 4 reads like an answer to the Los Quetzales?
What type of 4wd did you have, something like a Nissan X-trail or something like a Pathfinder?

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Thanks Alan,
so for clarity: your post No 4 reads like an answer to the Los Quetzales?
What type of 4wd did you have, something like a Nissan X-trail or something like a Pathfinder?

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Yes, 4WD for the last bit - there were 4 of us and we had a big 4WD, landcruiser or similar. I cannot remember it well enough to know whether a small 4WD would be ok - I suspect it would be fine. Careful of the drive west from Panama City - I got a speeding ticket; there are plenty of speed traps on that road...

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Thanks. It sounds at this time like I will go for a big 4wd as well.

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