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Old Friday 8th November 2019, 16:10   #1
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Finch/Bunting ID

Afternoon all, looking for help identifying this finch or bunting in my garden today. He/she was part of a flock of six feeding on birch seeds. Could only get some photos of one between the branches and was fighting with the low sun to get a proper look. Female Linnet or Twite maybe?
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Old Friday 8th November 2019, 16:15   #2
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in my garden today.
Female Linnet or Twite maybe?
"Female type" Linnet agreed.
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Old Friday 8th November 2019, 17:25   #6
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Yellow bill =Twite, not Linnet I believe.

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Yellow bill =Twite, not Linnet I believe.

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Not convinced this is yellow as in twite yellow—more like light shining on linnet lower bill yellow—, and anyway shape is wrong, I think
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Not convinced this is yellow as in twite yellow—more like light shining on linnet lower bill yellow—, and anyway shape is wrong, I think
Linnets have all grey bills and they don’t have heavy side and flank streaking as the subject bird has.

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Bill doesn't look yellow enough to me, I reckon just the bright backlighting shining through the bill is making it look brighter than usual.

Do Twite ever perch in trees? Don't think I've ever seen one doing so, only time I've seen them perch above ground is on wires.
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Linnets have all grey bills and they don’t have heavy side and flank streaking as the subject bird has.

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? This bird has side streaking [picked at random]. As others agree, I think bill colour is illusory. Bill shape is wrong anyway.

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? This bird has side streaking [picked at random]. As others agree, I think bill colour is illusory. Bill shape is wrong anyway.
Can’t reconcile your “example bird” with the subject whatsoever, pencil streaking v heavy streaking, grey bill v yellow, buff yellow wash to the crown (1/2nd images), contrasting striations to the mantle etc.etc. and as for bill shape difference, don’t recall seeing that emphasised as a feature for separation...perhaps it was imaginary?
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Agree with Linnet. Face pattern as can be best seen in pic 3 is diagnostic.
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