Hi all my main intrest is birds but love all wildlife while the better half was feeding the ducks the other day a male mallard was suddenly spooked & there was the reason way this huge carp sucking great chuncks out of the bread it sounded just like water going down a plughole I am no fisherman but it must of been over 2ft long see photo. Regards Snapper.
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Keith Reeder
Watch the birdie...
The noise carp make when taking bread (or anything else) off the surface is known as "clooping" - and carp surely do like bread!
It's nice when these unexpected things happen, especially when you've got your camera with you to record events.
It's nice when these unexpected things happen, especially when you've got your camera with you to record events.
timmyjones
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Nice i never known carp to take from the ducks but i seen chub do it and mullet and carp do visit the surface i caught one last summer weighing 17lb
Anthony Morton
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Vick2903 said:
Despite your final LOL comment, no angler in his right mind should EVER knowingly use a floating bait when ducks, or any other water birds such as coots and moorhens, are present.
Should a duck take your bait, who would you get to unhook it for you - the RSPCA? If so, that's a sure way of getting ALL anglers a bad name simply because of one person's inconsiderate actions!
Vick2903
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Yet again Anthony your reasoning if far beyond me!
If you were an angler you would have heard of a Float which when attached to a line bobs up and down in the water and has a tendency to spook the water fowl enough to keep them away from the bread!
Oh and just for the record my Partner, Brother and I have on many occasion taken hooks, line, and such out of water fowls beaks that inconsiderate and ignorant fishermen have left - Without having the need to contact the RSPCA!
I can assure you that your not nice campaign on me due to my certain pasting will Fail!
Andy Thatcher
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Agree ! Well nearly.
When using a floating bait there is no reason why any wildfowl should be hooked. Have to say that I have never seen it but then that could be due to me taking care.
Reader
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I was an angler for many, many years and I consider myself a better than average one having been on the open circuit for many years before finally becoming a specialist angler for Barbel.
I used to love the sound of the Carp taking baits off the surface. especially early morning on a secluded lake with only the birdsong to hear.
Floating baits are fine in the hands of the experienced Carp Angler (or any other fish that takes off the surface) The experienced Angler will always withdraw his bait quickly (usually the bread drops off with this action) when a duck is in close proximity. If ducks, or Swans etc, persist in hanging around a baited area the only recourse an Angler has is to drop the bait off the top of the water and fish at depth.
The problem arises when inexperienced Anglers try this method of fishing and just don't see the dangers (or just ignore them). This is when the dangers of birds being hooked arises.
I gave up on the pleasures of fishing about 8 years ago when birdwatching totally took over my life. I would hope that the sport of fishing still has it's recognised guidlines. Virtually all the Anglers I knew always recognised the do's & don'ts in every situation.
I would hope that Andrew's scenario wouldn't arise but sadly I expect it does. In some ways he is right to point this out and I don't think he is getting at Vick just expressing a genuine fear for the birds.
I used to love the sound of the Carp taking baits off the surface. especially early morning on a secluded lake with only the birdsong to hear.
Floating baits are fine in the hands of the experienced Carp Angler (or any other fish that takes off the surface) The experienced Angler will always withdraw his bait quickly (usually the bread drops off with this action) when a duck is in close proximity. If ducks, or Swans etc, persist in hanging around a baited area the only recourse an Angler has is to drop the bait off the top of the water and fish at depth.
The problem arises when inexperienced Anglers try this method of fishing and just don't see the dangers (or just ignore them). This is when the dangers of birds being hooked arises.
I gave up on the pleasures of fishing about 8 years ago when birdwatching totally took over my life. I would hope that the sport of fishing still has it's recognised guidlines. Virtually all the Anglers I knew always recognised the do's & don'ts in every situation.
I would hope that Andrew's scenario wouldn't arise but sadly I expect it does. In some ways he is right to point this out and I don't think he is getting at Vick just expressing a genuine fear for the birds.
Keith Reeder
Watch the birdie...
I don't know what kind of float Vick is using which is capable of warding off waterfowl - the more garish and conspicuous they are, the more interesting they seem to be to waterfowl! (No offence meant, Vick).
I've actually had ducks and swans try to take controller floats, and - in my experience - the only real solution (aside from simply not using floating baits at all where there are a lot of waterfowl) is to be extremely vigilant as suggested by Andy, and get the hook out of the way pronto if there is even a possibility that a bird might take the bread - as stated by Reader.
There are no "deterrent floats" that will replace vigilance.
I've actually had ducks and swans try to take controller floats, and - in my experience - the only real solution (aside from simply not using floating baits at all where there are a lot of waterfowl) is to be extremely vigilant as suggested by Andy, and get the hook out of the way pronto if there is even a possibility that a bird might take the bread - as stated by Reader.
There are no "deterrent floats" that will replace vigilance.
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Vick2903
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I will go along with all you say on the no float score
The runner bubble type float - the one that you thread the line through the centre of a bubble - not the stick ones!
I have found these floats work wonders on the lake we fish
vigilance is also needed because it is fun watching the fish take the bread and other floating bait!
Now all I have to do is wait for someone to say fishing is a cruel sport lol!
The runner bubble type float - the one that you thread the line through the centre of a bubble - not the stick ones!
I have found these floats work wonders on the lake we fish
vigilance is also needed because it is fun watching the fish take the bread and other floating bait!
Now all I have to do is wait for someone to say fishing is a cruel sport lol!
timmyjones
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Beautiful pic their snappy i love your pics
