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Pete Haynes
Pete H
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Angus,
Thanks for the reply on the Caloptilia stigmatella. I've looked through UK Moths and there are two others that look a better coloration C. alchinella and C. robustella. Unfortunately it seems that they are the sort that need gen dets for separation. Have you had these?
Temp was down last night, min 12.3, cloudy, rain from about 04.30 but dry by 06.00, (steady but not heavy like yours Ken), no wind. provisional total comes out at 252 moths of 38 species with three new ones for me, Pale Prominent, Iron Prominent and Chocolate Tip. |<| Flame Shoulder was new for the year.
Brindled Pug (81)
Clouded Drab (24)
Lesser Swallow Prominent (21)
Hebrew Character (19)
E. subpurpurella (16)
Common Quaker (12)
Waved Umber (7)
Epinotia immundana (or tetraquetrana) (7)
Grey Pine Carpet (6)
Nut-tree Tussock (6)
Brindled Beauty (5)
Lunar Marbled Brown (4)
Frosted Green (3)
Swallow Prominent (3)
Great Prominent (3)
Brimstone Moth (3)
Purple Thorn (3)
E. sparrmanella (3)
Dwarf Pug (2)
Engrailed (2)
Lobster Moth (2)
Pine Beauty (2)
Water Carpet (2)
Elachista rufocinerea (2)
Scalloped Hook-tip (1)
Pale Prominent (1)
Iron Prominent (1)
Chocolate Tip (1)
Flame Shoulder (1)
Early Thorn (1)
Acleris hastiana (1)
Pebble Prominent (1)
Coxcomb Prominent (1)
March Moth (1)
White Ermine (1)
Pale Pinion (1)
Twenty-plume Moth
(1)
Unid'd micro (1)
Any ideas on the micro, plus one from yesterday, gratefully received as usual. Yesterday's has a little orangey tuft on its head, which might be a help.
Pete H
Angus,
Thanks for the reply on the Caloptilia stigmatella. I've looked through UK Moths and there are two others that look a better coloration C. alchinella and C. robustella. Unfortunately it seems that they are the sort that need gen dets for separation. Have you had these?
Temp was down last night, min 12.3, cloudy, rain from about 04.30 but dry by 06.00, (steady but not heavy like yours Ken), no wind. provisional total comes out at 252 moths of 38 species with three new ones for me, Pale Prominent, Iron Prominent and Chocolate Tip. |<| Flame Shoulder was new for the year.
Brindled Pug (81)
Clouded Drab (24)
Lesser Swallow Prominent (21)
Hebrew Character (19)
E. subpurpurella (16)
Common Quaker (12)
Waved Umber (7)
Epinotia immundana (or tetraquetrana) (7)
Grey Pine Carpet (6)
Nut-tree Tussock (6)
Brindled Beauty (5)
Lunar Marbled Brown (4)
Frosted Green (3)
Swallow Prominent (3)
Great Prominent (3)
Brimstone Moth (3)
Purple Thorn (3)
E. sparrmanella (3)
Dwarf Pug (2)
Engrailed (2)
Lobster Moth (2)
Pine Beauty (2)
Water Carpet (2)
Elachista rufocinerea (2)
Scalloped Hook-tip (1)
Pale Prominent (1)
Iron Prominent (1)
Chocolate Tip (1)
Flame Shoulder (1)
Early Thorn (1)
Acleris hastiana (1)
Pebble Prominent (1)
Coxcomb Prominent (1)
March Moth (1)
White Ermine (1)
Pale Pinion (1)
Twenty-plume Moth
(1)
Unid'd micro (1)
Any ideas on the micro, plus one from yesterday, gratefully received as usual. Yesterday's has a little orangey tuft on its head, which might be a help.
Pete H
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Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
These records from 30 Apr.
Esperia sulphurella flying around in the daytime - a day earlier than last year.
Combined list from two traps. * = year first.
0648 White-shouldered House-moth (Endrosis sarcitrella), 2
*1288 Twenty-plume Moth (Alucita hexadactyla), 1
1651 Chinese Character (Cilix glaucata), 3
*1724 Red Twin-spot Carpet (Xanthorhoe spadicearia), 2
*1760 Red-green Carpet (Chloroclysta siterata), 1
1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata), 3
1936 Waved Umber (Menophra abruptaria), 2
*1979 Lime Hawk-moth (Mimas tiliae), 2
*2007 Swallow Prominent (Pheosia tremula), 6
*2011 Pale Prominent (Pterostoma palpina), 1
2063 Muslin Moth (Diaphora mendica), 1
*2078 Least Black Arches (Nola confusalis), 1
*2102 Flame Shoulder (Ochropleura plecta), 1
2190 Hebrew Character (Orthosia gothica), 2
2243 Early Grey (Xylocampa areola), 1
2306 Angle Shades (Phlogophora meticulosa), 1
Hawthorn Shieldbug (Acanthosoma haemorrhoidale), 1
Pics to follow.
Edit: Forgot a couple of pugs, which are going for gen det.
Also added a bit.
Esperia sulphurella flying around in the daytime - a day earlier than last year.
Combined list from two traps. * = year first.
0648 White-shouldered House-moth (Endrosis sarcitrella), 2
*1288 Twenty-plume Moth (Alucita hexadactyla), 1
1651 Chinese Character (Cilix glaucata), 3
*1724 Red Twin-spot Carpet (Xanthorhoe spadicearia), 2
*1760 Red-green Carpet (Chloroclysta siterata), 1
1906 Brimstone Moth (Opisthograptis luteolata), 3
1936 Waved Umber (Menophra abruptaria), 2
*1979 Lime Hawk-moth (Mimas tiliae), 2
*2007 Swallow Prominent (Pheosia tremula), 6
*2011 Pale Prominent (Pterostoma palpina), 1
2063 Muslin Moth (Diaphora mendica), 1
*2078 Least Black Arches (Nola confusalis), 1
*2102 Flame Shoulder (Ochropleura plecta), 1
2190 Hebrew Character (Orthosia gothica), 2
2243 Early Grey (Xylocampa areola), 1
2306 Angle Shades (Phlogophora meticulosa), 1
Hawthorn Shieldbug (Acanthosoma haemorrhoidale), 1
Pics to follow.
Edit: Forgot a couple of pugs, which are going for gen det.
Also added a bit.
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Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Pete Haynes said:
That second pic is of a tiny macro: Least Black Arches (Nola confusalis)
http://ukmoths.org.uk/show.php?id=296
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Rather than post the many pics I have of Saturday night's moths here I've stuck them on my Blog. Comment on them here if you like, especially the two Red Twin-spot Carpets (Xanthorhoe spadicearia).
http://thenaturalstone.blogspot.com/2005/05/good-moth-night.html
http://thenaturalstone.blogspot.com/2005/05/good-moth-night.html
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Pete Haynes
Pete H
Least Black Arches
Thanks Brian, that's another macro on the list. It takes a bit of getting used to making yourself look at Waring/Skinner for little moths. It's even worse than finding that a largish moth is a micro. Put it down to experience.
Can't wait to find a Lime Hawkmoth in one of my traps. Its good to see you're catching.
All the best
Pete H
Thanks Brian, that's another macro on the list. It takes a bit of getting used to making yourself look at Waring/Skinner for little moths. It's even worse than finding that a largish moth is a micro. Put it down to experience.
Can't wait to find a Lime Hawkmoth in one of my traps. Its good to see you're catching.
All the best
Pete H
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
black52bird
Registered User
Records from BP and help needed!!
Dear Friends
Some great pictures and very helpful insights developing on this thread, which I've been watching, like Harry earlier, feeling rather envious, as Budapest weather has been weird lately, with the daytime temperature moving into the teens, but the nights still going down around 5C. Anyway, as of Friday, things seem to have started moving in the right direction. The balcony is now attracting Crane Flies, Mosquitoes, Lacewings...and ...HOORAY!!...a few moths at last.
Last Friday (29th April) saw me pick up the first Heart and Dart of the year (photo below)
Sunday (1st May) brought the extremely lovely Dewick's Plusia (photo below).
Last night (2nd May) the first question: what is the third one (2 photos) ? I can't pinpoint it, despite the fairly distinctive half-moon and dot marks, and the interesting 'batman' pattern in the centre!! Any suggestions?
Secondly, the Plusia left me a jar full of eggs. I would be extremely grateful for any suggestions about what I should do with them in order to raise them to adulthood?
Very best
David
Dear Friends
Some great pictures and very helpful insights developing on this thread, which I've been watching, like Harry earlier, feeling rather envious, as Budapest weather has been weird lately, with the daytime temperature moving into the teens, but the nights still going down around 5C. Anyway, as of Friday, things seem to have started moving in the right direction. The balcony is now attracting Crane Flies, Mosquitoes, Lacewings...and ...HOORAY!!...a few moths at last.
Last Friday (29th April) saw me pick up the first Heart and Dart of the year (photo below)
Sunday (1st May) brought the extremely lovely Dewick's Plusia (photo below).
Last night (2nd May) the first question: what is the third one (2 photos) ? I can't pinpoint it, despite the fairly distinctive half-moon and dot marks, and the interesting 'batman' pattern in the centre!! Any suggestions?
Secondly, the Plusia left me a jar full of eggs. I would be extremely grateful for any suggestions about what I should do with them in order to raise them to adulthood?
Very best
David
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Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Elton moths, 2 May
That plusia looks great.
Just a few for me last night including the first Shuttle-shaped Dart (Agrotis puta) and Poplar Hawk (Laothoe populi) of the year and a first for the garden, which I thought was Diamond-back Moth (Plutella xylostella) for a minute but I think must be Plutella porrectella.
That plusia looks great.
Just a few for me last night including the first Shuttle-shaped Dart (Agrotis puta) and Poplar Hawk (Laothoe populi) of the year and a first for the garden, which I thought was Diamond-back Moth (Plutella xylostella) for a minute but I think must be Plutella porrectella.
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Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Any thoughts on the micro in post #41, Mike?MikeWall said:
Ken
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Thought folk might be intersted in a few higher res pics. Two different Lime Hawk-moths, a Poplar Hawk-moth, a Lime-hawk with a Purple Thorn and the cracking little micro Esperia sulphurella (well worth looking out for this fellow in the daytime).
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black52bird
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Lovely Plusia
Dear Brian
yes - the Dewick's Plusia was really special. I saw it's silver wing-marks shining long before I could make out anything else of its shape. Of course, having UK books to work from, I was rather reluctant to call it that at first, because it's so rare in the UK. But then I looked at the Italian photo archive, and their 3rd picture was almost identical to this one. And, of course, it's a European species, with the couthern UK at the northern end of its range.
Your photos are fabulous. I still haven't seen Lime Hawkmoth here, despite the abundance of lime trees in the park. Does it come to light? Or did you just happen upon it, conveniently sitting next to the Purple Thorn, looking like models in a beauty show!! And the micro's a stunner, isn't it?
I wonder if you had any thoughts on my 3rd species?
Best
David
Dear Brian
yes - the Dewick's Plusia was really special. I saw it's silver wing-marks shining long before I could make out anything else of its shape. Of course, having UK books to work from, I was rather reluctant to call it that at first, because it's so rare in the UK. But then I looked at the Italian photo archive, and their 3rd picture was almost identical to this one. And, of course, it's a European species, with the couthern UK at the northern end of its range.
Your photos are fabulous. I still haven't seen Lime Hawkmoth here, despite the abundance of lime trees in the park. Does it come to light? Or did you just happen upon it, conveniently sitting next to the Purple Thorn, looking like models in a beauty show!! And the micro's a stunner, isn't it?
I wonder if you had any thoughts on my 3rd species?
Best
David
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Both Lime Hawks were taken at light (one to 15W actinic, the other to 125W MV). The Purple Thorn also came to the actinic and got in on the action while I was settling several moths for photos.
I did take a look at your third moth but couldn't really get far with it. I've had another go and come up with Pale-shouldered Cloud (Chloantha hyperici) - first recorded in the UK in 1996!
http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Noctuidae/2097a.html
I did take a look at your third moth but couldn't really get far with it. I've had another go and come up with Pale-shouldered Cloud (Chloantha hyperici) - first recorded in the UK in 1996!
http://jeffhiggott.topcities.com/lepidoptera/systematic_list/Noctuidae/2097a.html
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Ouch!MikeWall said:Yeah, what colour was it really?If it was a light buff, then Agonopterix yeatiana would be a possibility.
Thanks, Mike. I don't think it was as pale as the one shown on UKmoths but I don't have a good memory for these things. (The icecream container it decided to land on was certainly a somewhat paler blue!) It was one of those micros that won't stay still so I just took a shot when it finally settled on something. yeatiana certainly looks a reasonable possibility... as usual, it's a case of waiting to see if my CR accepts it or not. I notice on one site that Agonopterix angelicella looks similar, but is more richly coloured. Is that a possibility?
Ken
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MikeWall
HantsMoth-er
Surreybirder said:
Hi Ken...A.angelicella is not a species I've any first hand experience of, but this would still be a larva at this time of the year so it can be ruled out. Your moth seems to show a black-outlined white discal spot, and the other stigma look good for A.yeatiana. If you do have the ability to adjust the white balance on your camera, it's worth doing. Using a bit of creative playing I've changed your moth into a passable yeatiana
!Mike
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