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Black outs: 8x30e 8.3 WF

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Old Friday 19th October 2018, 10:08   #1
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Black outs: 8x30e 8.3 WF

Not long ago I picked up a set of Nikon 8x30e 8.3 WF binoculars. They are the most recent multi coated version prior to the E2. I understand these to be a fairly popular set of binoculars and I do find they have a lot going for them: 3D effects, great center sharpness, great form factor.

Maybe Iíll settle into them, but I find them a little tiring for extended use due to the finicky eye placement. On center they are wonderful, but if my eye placement isnít perfectly centered (due to scanning the field or moving the view to follow an object) I get kidney beaning or partial blackouts. I assume this is a natural quality of these binoculars rather than a maintenance issue. Is that accurate?

Iím sure part of the equation is poor technique (advice?). Iím also open to selling/trading these 8x30 for something similar but a little more relaxed (and ,perhaps, waterproofed). Thoughts?
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Maybe Iíll settle into them, but I find them a little tiring for extended use due to the finicky eye placement. On center they are wonderful, but if my eye placement isnít perfectly centered (due to scanning the field or moving the view to follow an object) I get kidney beaning or partial blackouts. I assume this is a natural quality of these binoculars rather than a maintenance issue. Is that accurate?
Hi,

in my experience (I don't wear glasses) blackouts are usually caused by the eye being too close to the eyepiece and I'll have to change my technique for holding (rest eyecups on eyesocket rim rather than pushing in) or make eyecup extensions from cycle innertube...

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Not long ago I picked up a set of Nikon 8x30e 8.3 WF binoculars. They are the most recent multi coated version prior to the E2. I understand these to be a fairly popular set of binoculars and I do find they have a lot going for them: 3D effects, great center sharpness, great form factor.

Maybe Iíll settle into them, but I find them a little tiring for extended use due to the finicky eye placement. On center they are wonderful, but if my eye placement isnít perfectly centered (due to scanning the field or moving the view to follow an object) I get kidney beaning or partial blackouts. I assume this is a natural quality of these binoculars rather than a maintenance issue. Is that accurate?

Iím sure part of the equation is poor technique (advice?). Iím also open to selling/trading these 8x30 for something similar but a little more relaxed (and ,perhaps, waterproofed). Thoughts?

Hi Tomly,

Welcome to Bird Forum!


I get "Kidney Beaning" when I use my Nikon 8x32 SE. I can make it disappear with the following technique: I brace the top edge of the eye cups up against and slightly under my eyebrows and tilt the binocular very slightly upward when I am using it.

It is known here as the MOLCET technique and it is named after Steve Moore, whose Bird Forum handle is "mooreorless"; and yours truly, "Ceasar." Both of us were using the technique independently of each other. It means "mooreorless ceasar's eyebrow technique". and it was given that name by "Brockenroller," another Bird Forum member.

Bob

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Old Friday 19th October 2018, 15:41   #4
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Thanks for the advice! I’ll play around with distance and the MOLCET method.

Any thoughts on a more weatherproof alternative?
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