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Old Wednesday 16th January 2019, 11:25   #1
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How to get into reptiles and amphibians?

After finding out how great mammalwatching is, I looked around the hierarchy of vertebrates and found out that the only things missing in my life (besides fish, which I find hopeless as I mostly hate water) are reptiles and amphibians.

However, they are even more "exotic" than mammals. Birds have this huge following around them (as shown by this webpage we are at!), mammals a bit more overlooked, but there is still a lot of material, but I don't even know where to start on Reptiles and Amphibians.

Would someone recommend some starting resources? Is there a good "WP" book for those (like Svensson for birds)? A good worldwide forum? Anything I should really just know about to save me a lot of trouble?

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Old Wednesday 16th January 2019, 11:37   #2
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There are plenty of guides but be prepared, reptiles are TOUGH, especially Frogs and you'll find you'll be doing a lot of stuff on range. A lot of books will also not, be very complete and cover just the most commony seen stuff.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amphibians-...iles+of+europe

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Guide-Repti...iles+of+africa

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Reptiles-Am...s+of+australia

https://www.amazon.co.uk/National-Ge...+north+america

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Field-Guide...ptiles+of+asia

Scythebill includes a spreadsheet for South East Asia
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So the trajectory birds->mammals->reptiles/amphibians seems only logical :) Already in mammaps there is a lot of range ID, there is even a map of the US showing which places have only onw ground squirrel as the only way to get them all for sure :)

The guides you linked are also incomplete? At least it's nice to see that the world is moreorless covered! I recently feel like I am changing my place into a bookstore, but I am not sure I am gonna resist buying those you linked as well :)
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So the trajectory birds->mammals->reptiles/amphibians seems only logical :) Already in mammaps there is a lot of range ID, there is even a map of the US showing which places have only onw ground squirrel as the only way to get them all for sure :)

The guides you linked are also incomplete? At least it's nice to see that the world is moreorless covered! I recently feel like I am changing my place into a bookstore, but I am not sure I am gonna resist buying those you linked as well :)
You should see mine......

This is new

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amphibians-...of+east+africa

Also East Africa

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Field-Guide...of+east+africa
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Plenty of stuff dedicated to particular groups as well e.g Snakes

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Naturalists...BC8WE9BFABFZ50

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Gu...eywords=snakes

and Frogs

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Frogs-South...1TSZKPNB9F5QNV

Once you start collecting books, there is no end in sight, had I spent the money I spent on books, on trips instead, I'd comfortably have double the World list I have.
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Old Wednesday 16th January 2019, 12:12   #6
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Nice selection! I will start slowly though, have to show restraint, since our flat is currently only 15 sq. meters and we will also some day want to move everything back to Prague ... On the other hand, shouldn't I agressively devour everything from UK Amazon that's not easily found in my local stores, before I will have to start paying customs on UK purchases? :)
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Nice selection! I will start slowly though, have to show restraint, since our flat is currently only 15 sq. meters and we will also some day want to move everything back to Prague ... On the other hand, shouldn't I agressively devour everything from UK Amazon that's not easily found in my local stores, before I will have to start paying customs on UK purchases? :)
My advice it to buy everything when it comes out, some books quickly become harder to get and thus more expensive, don't rush and shop around for bargains.

If something is on offer or new (especially site guides), buy it, you never know if / when you'll want it, check ebay too and this British site is quite good with reasonable prices. NHBS are my last resort as they are expensive.

https://www.wildsounds.com/menu/main.shtml
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This is due in August

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Snakes-Cent...Western+Africa
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Just a word of warning: herps require mostly digging in dry leaves, dead stumps, under stones and in swamps. There is following in the USA especially, with term like "herping". But it is not for everybody's liking.
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So the trajectory birds->mammals->reptiles/amphibians seems only logical :) Already in mammaps there is a lot of range ID, there is even a map of the US showing which places have only onw ground squirrel as the only way to get them all for sure :)
The trajectory - birds>butterflies and/or moths>dragonflies for many in the Uk perhaps.

With birds>cetaceans for some at coastal locations ;-)
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